Supernatural Music Extravaganza: The Family Business - Supporting Local Musicians

Our collaboration special between Denim-wrapped Nightmares and In Defense of Fandom continues with hosts Sadie, LA, and Berly exploring the world of Supernatural-inspired music... because apparently, watching two gorgeous brothers hunt monsters for 15 seasons wasn't enough.

Opening its doors in 2018, Family Business Beer Company was a Texas hill country retreat where visitors could drink craft brews, enjoy tasty pizza, and see local live music. Although the brewery’s physical location has since closed, its legacy lives on through the musicians who performed there. 

Night Parade, a classic rock and pop music cover band, describe their experiences performing at Family Business Beer Company. Not all the band members were originally fans of the show, but they absolutely appreciated how the brewery connected with the Austin live music scene while keeping it chill. 🔗http://nightparademusic.com/

The Scott Sisters, Charise and Christian are an acoustic sibling duo from Mississippi. Although they were raised in a musically-talented household, it wasn’t until the covid pandemic that Chistian followed her sister to Texas and they began singing together on stage. They take us through the whirlwind experience from performing at the brewery’s annual private party to singing back up for Steve Carlson to performing at Saturday Night Special in Oklahoma City!  🔗https://tr.ee/Ruf1df 

🍻If you want to support Family Business Beer Company, you can find their beer across Texas or shop their merch here.

As we are just past the midpoint of our musical Supernatural journey, please check out these playlists of songs featured in our episodes so far!

• Apple Music
• YouTube Music
• Spotify

And don’t worry, we’ll keep adding to the tunes as we continue our journey into the music of Supernatural!

A Denim Wrapped Nightmares and In Defensive Fandom podcast crossover

Transcript

Sadie Witkowski 0:03

Welcome back to the Denim Wrapped Nightmares and In Defense of Fandom Podcast Crossover, a supernatural music extravaganza. Alright, take it away, LA.

LA 0:14

In this collaboration series, we're looking at music in the show, music inspired by the show, and music created by actors, cast, and crew. Y'all, today we're going full Texan with a focus on two bands that have actually shared a stage with Radio Company. For those who don't recognize the name, Radio Company is a duo formed in 2018 by actor Jensen Accles and singer-songwriter Steve Carlson in Austin, Texas. Their debut album was released in 2019 with two other full albums released in 2021 and 2023. Night Parade is a classic rock and pop music band from Austin, Texas. They cover classic songs and have played in venues all across the Texas Capitol. Most notable for this conversation, Night Parade was invited by Family Business Beer Company to play at their annual family reunion, a private members-only party. It was that gig where they had a green room meet and photo with Jensen Eccles. Here's our conversation with the Night Parade band members Allison, Daniel, and John.

SPEAKER_04 1:17

My name's Allison Crow. I am the lead singer of Night Parade. The band has played at the brewery a handful of times. Played there, I think, just like on a random weekend. Uh, we played for Fall Fest and then we played for the members only party. So um, you know, that's been a lot of fun. I've watched uh all 15 seasons of the show. I love the show. Yeah, and I grew up on classic rock. So I mean, once I watched the show and saw what kind of music they played, I was it was just a fit.

SPEAKER_01 1:47

So yeah, I'm Daniel, uh guitar player on Night Parade. And um, we got played at the brewery. We've been playing. I watched some stuff on uh Supernatural, some cool videos, and I've watched a lot of the music stuff right now, and um, I've been ready. It looks it looks great. Yeah, I don't know. I I think I'm less qualified than the other guys. But I'm here and I'm here to have a good time, so it'll be a good time.

SPEAKER_00 2:10

Uh my name's John. I am the bass player for Night Parade, and um I did not make it quite as far as Allison into the show. I but I did have um the those first couple seasons, probably like I think I maybe got through three or four, were pretty foundational for me when I was really young. Uh it was between that and Doctor Who kind of established my uh love for like the monster of the week kind of format, you know, and there was uh a lot of exposure to online phantoms from that. And so I I can definitely kind of uh relate to what you're saying there. Uh and yeah, I I think I think the um what what's the one the Kansas song uh Wayward Sun, that I that's like just burned into my memory from like uh from a young age. Um yeah, when I I was probably I was probably about 15 when I first started watching the show. And I the music makes half of it, I think. And I also did get to play at one of the one of the shows at the brewery and meet gents, and he was super cool.

Sadie Witkowski 3:10

Yeah, I definitely I will ask more about playing at the brewery, but I wanted to ask if watching Supernatural the big aspect for you was the music of the show, and if that was like already a musical genre that you were interested in, or if it kind of broadened your horizons. Because I mean, I'm not a musician, but I know that probably you guys consume a lot of different kinds of music as inspiration.

SPEAKER_04 3:30

Oh, yeah. I mean, if if you were to open up the music on my phone right now, I kind of have a little bit of everything. Um, my music taste is very eclectic, but um, I was raised on classic rock. So just about every big musical cue that they have in the show is is a song that I already know or that I've already heard. But I think that just makes me appreciate it that much more because I'm like, oh, that song is perfect for that moment. That was such a good choice, you know?

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Yeah, I'm kind of in the same boat there. I I'm I'm pretty I like a lot of weird stuff these days, kind of out there stuff. But obviously being in this band, I still have a big appreciation for the classic stuff, and um I think the aesthetic of the show meshed really well with the kind of music they were using. I was not super familiar with a lot of it going in, but became more familiar with it through the show and through you know, other stuff.

Sadie Witkowski 4:22

Yeah, becomes one of those soundtracks that when you start hearing it elsewhere and like dive by, you're like, oh, I remember this.

SPEAKER_08 4:27

Right.

Sadie Witkowski 4:29

Well, tell me a little bit about night parade. Like, what's what how do you style your genre of music? How how did you guys get playing together? I want to hear a little bit of backstory.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

Um, well, you know, um, when I was a young boy, my father took me to see a marching band, and that's kind of that's kind of how the band started, you know. And I've I've always loved parades ever since, and I've always wanted to be um um I was always just a big fan of parades in general. And I was like, what if we had this like this parade and stuff? That's kind of and that's kind of the way the name came out. But um, but yeah, well, we mean Austin uh we've been playing together for about three years, just like 50 gigs later, and um still do a lot of like classic rock, kind of pop punk, more um poppy stuff too, just whatever the crowd wants, kind of entertainment is what I like to say. But that's kind of the band, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:18

Yeah, Danny and I met on a um Austin Musicians Wanted Facebook page, and he invited me to uh show for his band that he was in at that time. And we met up and um he was just making sure that I could actually sing and I wasn't just you know sing, I could sing. And so um, you know, we clicked and um he's like, Well, hey, let's build a band. And he uh did some posting on Craigslist and uh reached out to people and the rest is history.

SPEAKER_01 5:46

Yeah, I think the inspiration of the band was what I was thinking is like, you know, where this like like I'm not not physically not really a parade, like a four-person parade, but still kind of like, you know, we got guitars, drums, basses, and stuff, and we're gonna be loud, and we're gonna be it's we're gonna be loud. We're gonna be able to do that. We got the jackets too.

Sadie Witkowski 6:03

Oh, oh you gotta have the the band uniform jackets, you know, and everything.

SPEAKER_01 6:10

Maybe you'll see us in uh this uh Halloween, maybe. Yeah, but I like that.

SPEAKER_04 6:14

Not so hot.

Sadie Witkowski 6:17

Uh well, so you guys have played at the brewery, which is specifically family business brewery. Currently that location is closed, but how did you first get hooked up with that kind of gig?

SPEAKER_04 6:28

Um, well, I've been going to the brewery for a while, so I was kind of friendly with the staff. And so, you know, I noticed they did live music. I was talking to Scott, who was one of the general managers, and he was like, you know, we love having independent artists here, but we kind of also want to have some bands that play covers because, you know, people actually know the music. They can sing along, they can dance, you know, as opposed to someone who's singing music they wrote, you know, people don't know it. So um, I was like, oh, you know, we have a cover band. I showed him some of our stuff that we have online, and he was like, Oh, yeah, that's like classic rock. We love that kind of stuff. And so, yeah, we had we just did a random weekend and um it went over really well, and they kept asking us back. So, you know, I'm we're just chomping at the bit, waiting for them to have a new location so we can go back because it's it's one of our pla favorite places to play, you know, it's always a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_00 7:23

My my first um exposure to family business was actually like a couple years ago before I was in the band. There's a there's a state park called Rhymer's Ranch out there and nearby. Uh, and I was out there with some climbing buddies, and afterwards they would always go and grab a beer and some pizza at family business. And I was like, this place rocks, like I it's in the middle of nowhere. I don't know, like I don't know how people discover it, but I thought it was awesome. Uh and so I was sold in the vibes like that. When they were like, there's this brewery out in the hills, they were like, you know, it's it's it's like a membership deal, yada yada, gins and knuckles. I was like, okay, sure, whatever. I think it's it was a little bit more casual. Like I think a lot of places that that we play, it's um, and don't get me wrong, it's still pretty casual normally when we play, but uh there's it's it's a little bit more um like do your job, get in setup, you know, uh get out. Like the people there are not unfriendly, but they're not they're not super keen on like chatting with you. At family business, it was like we were back in the the canning room and we were kind of getting the full tour. Like, you know, we got a picture with Jensen, which I thought was really cool. You know, they do have that kind of like they call it family business for a reason, you know. It's got it's a very comfortable environment, I should say. Great beer too.

Sadie Witkowski 8:44

What was it like playing the uh it the the family picnic, I think is what they've called it in the past, the family reunion, um, which is like the private members-only party. It's it's quite a zoo of an event. What was that like compared to just a random Saturday?

SPEAKER_04 8:58

Well, it's funny because the three times we played the first time, you know, it was just a normal Saturday, a good crowd, you know, but nothing crazy. Second time was Fall Fest, so like significantly more crowded, but still nothing like insane. And then members only parties like crazy crowded. So I feel like every time we got a little bit more of a crowd. Um yeah, I remember, gosh, we were probably, I think it was at um our break that we do halfway through the set. We all kind of looked at each other and we were like, this is kind of crazy. It's cool, but like in a cool way. But like this is kind of insane. It was it was fun. It was fun. It was a different experience than you know the places we usually play. That's like a a bar, like you know, a bar restaurant kind of vibe, or like, you know, uh late night thing. Like it was just kind of a different vibe.

SPEAKER_01 9:51

Yeah, it was it was crazy because um I wasn't really as familiar with um Jensen and the whole TV show until I played there and and then I got more familiar with it. And then it was funny because right after we play, I was like, Yeah, so like we're we we finished playing and was whatever. I said I'm super casual on the mic. I'm like, yeah, so like I think Jensen's gonna play afterwards, like no big deal, right? Oh, it was a big deal. Huge deal. They rushed the stage, and uh it's just like a massive All of us looked at him like you weren't supposed to say that, Danny.

SPEAKER_04 10:20

And he was like, I didn't know, I didn't know.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

Uh I didn't I didn't know it'd be that big of a deal. I thought they'd just be like, oh cool, you know.

Sadie Witkowski 10:28

Well, what did what did you think of his performance? I mean, like as professional or like you know, active musicians, what did you think?

SPEAKER_00 10:35

I actually saw I I knew that he was a musician because of super random. So I'm I'm a big fan of this artist named Elliott Smith, and one of his most famous songs, uh Angelis or Angelese, I'm not sure it's pronounced, but um Jensen actually has a cover of it on YouTube that I stumbled upon. And I remember thinking, like, is this the guy from from Supernatural? This was like years ago, and uh someone I actually met him on was like um do you remember this cover of like he like he had a little chat with me about that song, and I was I was blown away. I was like, that's crazy. Uh but he's a great singer, he's really talented. It's not fair. You can't be a great actor and a great singer like that.

Berly 11:14

And look like that.

SPEAKER_00 11:15

And look like that.

Sadie Witkowski 11:19

Well, going back to supernatural a little bit, are there any particular like needle drops or musical moments that really stuck with you that you're like, yes, this is the perfect use of this kind of music?

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Yeah, we actually gonna we can pull it up right now. We we actually have some clips that we want to just share. Uh oh yeah. Yeah, so we can watch it right here. This one, this one, this renegade one.

Berly 11:40

It's also just so beautifully shot. Yeah, and John, I don't know if you remember, but this was after they uh had left a bank and found out that they were like wanted by the FBI and had dealt with a skinwalker and all this other stuff, and so they're leaving, kind of being like, Well, fuck us. Like, yeah, we're we're not in a good place right now. So it was it was perfect. I agree with you guys. It rocks.

SPEAKER_04 12:06

I have another one. Um, my other favorite is the introduction for death. Um, you know, he's riding up in his big white car and get out, and we don't really see his face, you know, we just see the back of him. And when he turns his head, we can see his profile a little bit. But you know, oh death is playing, and then when the guy bumps into his shoulder and he brushes off because he's mad, and then the guy like falls down dead. I mean, that's just the best character introduction, I think, not only in the show, but on TV, I would argue. That was it's just a really cool introduction. Gives me chills every time I watch it.

Sadie Witkowski 12:45

Are there any other aspects of music and supernatural that you guys think are really important to like cover off on?

SPEAKER_04 12:52

Or um I just think supernatural is a really great example of how you can combine cinematography and music to just make something even better than it already was, even if it already seems really great by itself. I don't know. It's just you, you know, when something auditory and then visual combines in your brain to this like beautiful amalgamation. I don't know. It's just I think supernatural is this really great example and it's this really good blueprint for shows now to um, you know, use music not only just to help further along the story, but to help it grow into something even better.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Well, one thing I noticed is I was what I was watching I've been watching these clips and stuff, and as musicians, we're always kind of like thinking about how does the song make you feel and how to like because we're you know, you're changing you're changing the temperature of the room just basically with the song that you choose, whether it's a fun upbeat song or whether it's you know more depressing, sad, kind of more kind of relatable song. And um, and I I've just uh what I've seen is just you know, like I can see how Supernatural used certain certain things to kind of more, you know, like I was watching this one clip where it had Simple Man and I was like, you know, um everyone kind of succeeds listening to that song and kind of makes you feel a certain way. And then in the video, you know, it's just kind of like uh kind of like you, I guess you see the you see the acting along with the song, which is kind of like there's been plenty of times when I've seen a music video and I didn't like the song before I saw the music video, then I saw the music video, and then I was like, oh, this is kind of I kind of like this is the way the song is supposed to make you feel. So um I think I think that's all like actually. I think that's all like that. I don't know what to say next.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

Uh I guess the last uh thing I can contribute would be I don't know if you guys are big on TikTok, uh to kind of give you guys more of a gin z example of of this kind of thing. Um but on TikTok there's a lot there's these things called uh edits. It's like I feel dumb talking about this, but it's like um it's like a they'll play like a song. It's like a little like short music video. You know, obviously everything on TikTok's gonna be short form. They're also on like reels on YouTube. They'll take a song and just put a bunch of like clips of like a certain character or show. I'm sure there's if you if you if you look supernatural, edit up on TikTok, you're gonna get a lot of probably pretty horny stuff as well. But like um it does combine just kind of the visceral feeling of the music with like you know this character or person, and I think that's kind of what we're what we're experiencing when we see it in the show. Is like you're combining something you like with uh like the mythos of like a character or a story arc, and I think that's that's probably gonna be something that people associate music and and other media with for you know hundreds of years.

LA 15:53

The Scott Sisters in Austin are a alternative acoustic sibling duo from Mississippi. They're known for their harmonies and original tunes, though they also cover popular songs with country, pop, and blues vibes. They come from a family tradition of music, including their musician father who toured with Earth, Wind, and Fire. After moving to Austin, the Scott Sisters went looking for venues to perform and discovered Family Business Beer Company. Like Night Parade, they were asked to perform at the brewery's family reunion and have since performed with Radio Company across state lines at the SPN convention in Oklahoma City for Saturday night special. Here's our interview with the Scott Sisters, Christian and Sharice.

SPEAKER_03 16:39

Well, I'm Charisse, and I'm Christian. Yes.

Berly 16:43

A big reason why we definitely wanted the two of you is because I know you were fans of the show first. Yes. You performed at the brewery, and you've now performed at conventions with Saturday Night Special.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Very true.

Berly 16:57

So we we definitely were like, we have to talk to the Scott Sisters.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

Y'all are so sweet. Thank you. So sweet. I'm sorry if you hear our dogs in the background. They are doing things right now.

Berly 17:08

They're fine. They're fine. Before we get into all of that, however, I was interested, how did you two get started with your musical endeavors?

SPEAKER_03 17:17

That's a great question. I guess um specifically, we we started really young. Our dad's a musician, he really got us into music early. Honestly, music was one of the things in the house that was kind of forced, if we're being like completely honest. And you know, some things rub off on you and some things stick with you despite it being like a kind of like an embedded kind of culture in your family. And so I don't know what to say except that out of four siblings, we definitely had we just kind of stuck with the music through our lives. We would like sing in church. Um, I went on to study music, and we both like toured with college choirs and studied opera. I play piano as well as I can. And you know, we just we could just kind of stuck with it. We really started doing music together, like in each other's presence in like high school and early college when we were in a couple different community choirs, um, some unaffiliated, some like gospel choirs. And as I said, we I studied music. She went into um sociology, mental health fields in college. And so at that point, I really started taking like the academic music route. And even to this day, that's what I do, it's my day job. I teach people music and speech. And you know, we just sort of stuck with it. I don't know what else to say, except that was how it started, how it kind of blossomed. Um, so music started young, but we both just kind of made it a priority that going into our adult lives, music would be a constant in our lives. It wasn't until the last, I would say, five years that we were like, yeah, we should actually start performing together. Um, because we performed with like ensembles before, choirs, as I said. We, you know, we've toured as adults out like outside of like college and academic stuff. We toured with like some some friends of friends in music and like choral music, like overseas and stuff, but we just decided it was something we wanted to stick with. And so I think we're the we're the two out of the family, out of the four girls that kind of decided to stay in music, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:42

Um, and kind of to that that um I don't know, that dot. Uh so we're not originally from Austin. We do currently live in Austin. We're from Mississippi. As she said, our dad uh was also a musician. He's toured with like Earth, Wind and Fire, and so he was kind of you know, old, old music. Um loved it, great music, but he just kind of had that that mentality of yeah, that mentality of like kind of the Jackson 5, like everybody's gotta be involved in the music scene. And um big ensembles. I didn't really sell out to that. I was I was like, yeah, I can sing, but I'm not gonna do this professionally. I refused. Um, so she went into she went into it professionally and you know, got her degrees, multiple degrees in it. And I was like, no, I'm gonna I'll still do it for fun, you know, but I'll I'm not gonna learn piano if I don't want to, I'm not gonna go study it if I don't have to. So for me, it was always um important to keep music as like an outlet and like enjoyable. I didn't want to have to do that. I didn't want to have to do that. That's the whole statement. Like, I didn't want to have to do it. I didn't want to have to teach it or perform every day if I didn't feel like it. So um yeah, that's kind of how we went into it. But for us, it's been very organic. I tell people all the time, like, I'm pretty sure I was harmonizing before I could talk. Um it was just kind of the way it was. We were all singing around the house all the time. So um I would harmonize words. I didn't know what I was singing, I would just, you know, make noise.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

And um I mean, to be fair, I do that now.

SPEAKER_02 21:23

Yeah, she does. I do. But yeah, that's kind of how we got into it.

Berly 21:28

Nice. Yeah, I was about to say, Sharice, I have a feeling that you're still having fun.

SPEAKER_02 21:32

Oh, for sure. Absolutely. I wouldn't do it if I wasn't. It's an ankling, you know. I wouldn't do it if I wasn't. You're a hundred percent right. Definitely still having fun.

Berly 21:41

So, speaking of musical performances, and that's wonderful to hear that you guys started not too long ago actually performing together. Yeah. So, how the hell did uh family business brewery, how'd that opportunity come about? Because that's what got you guys on my radar.

SPEAKER_02 21:55

Yeah, that's that's that's such a good question because it's so hard to explain. It is very hard. Uh so when I first moved, because I moved to Austin first, uh, and I've been here about eight years now, and I didn't really think about you know seeking out places to perform because it was just me initially. And then when she moved, she moved about two and a half years ago, two and a half almost three years.

SPEAKER_03 22:16

Yeah, around 2020.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

Yeah. Oh, during COVID, that's yeah, exactly. Honestly, so much had changed. 2021, but yeah, sorry about it. 2021, like in the depths of the pandemic and all that kind of stuff. And I was super lonely here, and and her Lisa run out um in Mississippi, and so we were like, you know what? Just come couch, sir for a while. Um that turned permanent, which is great, love that. Um, but yeah, so she came and we were like, you know what, we should look into actually performing together. We already have like a built-in a built-in stage name. Um, we don't have to you know work too hard at that. And I was like, let's just go and ask random places if we can perform next. That's true. Um for free, you know, let's just say say, hey, can we have two hours on your stage? Whatever. And so that actually worked. I I reached out to Gina. Was it Gino first or was it Scott first? It was Gino.

SPEAKER_03 23:13

No, yeah, we literally just went, right? We just started going. Oh, that's right. Okay, so I just have to say this. This is the kind of weird thing that nobody will believe, I swear. It's like we literally were just um post-pandemic, well, like tail end and post-pandemic, we were just like, hey, I had just left a a higher education position teaching college choir. And so I was like, after COVID, you know, some of those choir jobs just they sort of dried up. Or for me, I just honestly, I was in Mississippi and I wasn't being paid enough. And so I was like, you know, I'm I'm not doing this. And so after the pandemic or at the tail end, we were literally just like, we just need to be in music. And during that time, during the pandemic time, I think we found lots of different ways to just like engage in music, give ourselves excuses to practice. We we auditioned for the voice, yeah. We like did things literally just to kind of you know get our nerve back, sing. And so literally we were calling places and being like, hey, we're out here, we've got mu we've got equipment, let us busk in front of your place. Like a free dress great.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Yeah, so to answer your question, we ended up going to family business, yes, um, just randomly one Saturday, uh, because it's not too far from where we live. And um, we were like, they have a great stage. That was the first thing I thought of like, this is a great stage. Absolutely. Uh so we went up to Gino and we were like, hey, do you guys have live music here? This is always how it starts. This I'm usually the one that does it. I'm like, hey, so are you looking for a musician? So I was like, hey, do you guys do live music? Do you are you looking for live music? He's like, Yeah. Um, we haven't recently, blah, blah, blah. They they have occasional people, they do like, they did like karaoke and stuff like that. Um, and I was like, Well, don't worry about paying us, but can we just like come and sing? And you let us know if that's something you want to, you know, you would want consistently, like every weekend or whatever. He's like, Okay. And so we brought our stuff one weekend and they were like, Oh, yeah, we have to have it. After we after we did one performance, he was like, Yep. So every pretty much every other weekend for about three months. I think it was about three months before. Um we didn't know that they were planning on like closing the the family business down with that location down. We had no idea at that time, but they were they were you know very interested in having us kind of consistently perform at their events and stuff like that. So um, yeah, that's kind of how that works.

SPEAKER_03 25:46

That's literally how that happened.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

Yeah, very organic, I said.

Sadie Witkowski 25:50

Did you know much about the brewery? Because, like, so I'm from Dripping Springs originally, and the first time I went to that brewery was before I had watched Supernatural, and they kept trying to tell me about how it was owned by some famous dude. I was like, I don't give a shit, but their beer's good. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 26:02

So honestly, so I'm I'm gonna be perfectly honest with you. That was me. Yeah, that was so during the pandemic. My sister, before I moved to Texas, she was like, You have to watch Supernatural. She's like, You just need to watch it. She's like, I think. She's like, We have nothing else to do. She's like, walk in, girl, walk in. There's like something for everybody. There's explosions, there's people dying, there's like zombies, there's you know, it's all the stuff. Yeah. And I was like, nah, I don't think I'm gonna do that. And she's like, well, you know, this guy, Jensen Eckle's on there, he's great. And she was like, You should just do it. And I was like, okay, fine, whatever. So I just start kind of casually watching it. But then, more to me, more importantly, she had been like sending me radio company like clips. And I was like, I'm sorry, why are you sending me these two guys? And she's like, Well, this is that guy that's in Supernatural. I was like, What guy? Which one? And she's like, It's Jensen. And I'm like, Okay. And so then it was just kind of like that was a seed that was planted. And so, if we're being perfectly honest, by the time I got to going to the brewery, I was a full-blown like radio company fan. I still had not completely sold out. I don't even think I'd finished like Supernatural once by the time I went there. You know, it was just so I am the person This interview is over. I know, I know, I know, I'm that person. They um I was like, the beer's great, the pizza's freaking awesome, and like I mean, I guess this thing is like super close to us, so let's go to this place. And so that's when we just kind of went, yeah, like a lot, and then we started playing there.

SPEAKER_02 27:45

So to answer your question, so I'm a trader. She is a trader. Um I am uh I knew about dripping springs prior to knowing about uh family business and even prior to knowing about supernatural. But once I figured out the location, I was like, oh yeah, like there's no reason not to. And I was like, let me just figure it out. Like, this is fun. Uh and I was already a supernatural fan. I was definitely the fan before her. I got her hooked in though. Um, but it it took some pulling some legs to pulling legs, pulling teeth, pulling limbs, fingernails, all of it.

SPEAKER_03 28:20

That's terrible. That's terrible. Watch the show. It's fun. And so I did.

unknown 28:25

Yeah.

Berly 28:26

So I have to know, were you guys given any kind of heads up regarding Jensen just like standing at the back of the stage and watching you guys performing?

SPEAKER_02 28:38

No, we were not given a heads up. It was so fun though. Um, he noticed that he noticed that the way that man was looking at y'all, I was just like, oh damn. He's precious. Oh, he's so sweet. Um he so he noticed that we were not getting much attention because everybody was kind of turned, he was behind the bar, so everybody was kind of turned towards him, which is the opposite side of the room as a stage.

SPEAKER_03 29:04

For your listeners, uh the it's a rectangle, and the stage is on one side of the room, and the bar is on the opposite side. So if you're facing the bar, you are by definition not facing the stage, you're back. And he was behind the bar, and so people were watching him, and so he kind of made it seems like he made a tactical decision based on the videos that I've seen of people posting from that day.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

And what he told us, like he literally told him.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

He's like, they're sitting down, nobody's gonna see them if I don't like move. So he's like, I'm just gonna move closer to the stage. Yeah, and then I guess he just alternates the tactical decision. He tapped his stand on stage.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

He tapped the guy that was, uh I guess his bodyguard, like kind of following him around. Um, and he was like, I'm going up there. And the bodyguard's like, no, and he's like, Yeah, and so he just looks funny. It's so funny, like seeing like the dots going through his head, and he's just like, Yeah, I'm going up there. And so he just comes on stage. And we're like, Do you want a mic? Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

Literally, I was like, I okay, because I'm the kind of person that when I get it, really kind of doesn't matter like what what I'm performing for, with the exception of like opera. If I'm by myself, like singing opera, I'm going to be like wrecked nervous. But when I know that I'm about to like play a show somewhere, I'm really not, contrary to popular opinion, I'm not actually like thinking about what's going on around me. I'm not thinking about who's in the crowd, who's watching me. Because if I like internalize that, I'm over, I'm done with. And so I literally went into that day. I don't know how you went into that day, honestly, but I went into that day that we performed because it was May 4th. It was four days before my birthday. And I was just like, this is awesome. This is a great late birthday thing, you know. And I just wasn't, I wasn't even planning, we weren't planning to meet him. I was just like happy to be in the room where it happens that I'm doing respectfully.

SPEAKER_02 30:48

That's bullshit because she absolutely fucking panicked.

SPEAKER_03 30:51

Hold on, I'm getting to that. I'm getting to that. Hold on.

Sadie Witkowski 30:54

That's the most sister-cut in conversation.

SPEAKER_03 30:57

It matters though. It matters the process.

Sadie Witkowski 30:59

I was I wasn't.

Berly 31:00

It was it was like the big, it was the big annual party thing, too, right? Yeah, and you all knew that going into it. I was like, we're here for the people.

SPEAKER_03 31:10

I knew he'd be there, I knew he was the main event, but I was like, I'm I'm the music, I'm happy to be the music. So literally, I was sitting on stage, we were in the middle of shallow, and then he comes up there at the high like the high big part. He comes on the stage, he he she was singing that, and why I got the words wrong, I guess. And he comes on the stage, and I just see him kind of like saunter up there. I honestly didn't know if he'd gone to the bathroom or what. And so then I just crowd crazy, yeah, looking at us, and I'm like, what is going on? And so when you I just got used to performing to the back of your heads, literally, and I was happy to be doing that because sound travels. But like, when so when I'm like, he's behind me, isn't he? It was really truly because I was just like, I'm not turning around, like I'm not a punk, like I'm just gonna do my job here. But then I was like, holy shit, they're not even looking at me, they're looking at this god-like statue man back there because he's literally just standing back there with a beer. And so if you see these pictures on Twitter that are like, that are like him behind us, us looking super focused, singing, and then his bodyguard right next to the stage literally just because that was the only way off the stage outside of coming through us, yeah, and he was like, it was it's the most strange, surreal thing. But I swear I was not I was not planning anything to see him to interact. She did end up panicking hard. I had to do it. Particularly the first break.

SPEAKER_02 32:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:43

Jesus, because I wasn't planning to meet him.

SPEAKER_02 32:45

No, and I don't know why she wasn't planning on that, but it was so funny, it was hilarious because she's not a fangirl. I'm not a fangirl. She doesn't fangirl over pretty much anyone. Um and we were backstage, like putting up like prepping to go on stage. We were loading in our stuff, and he was taking pictures in the back.

Sadie Witkowski 33:08

Were either of y'all there? So I was there, and actually, like, I have a very relatable story where I brought my brother, who has only ever seen the boys, and he was like, Yeah, whatever, he's just an actor dude or whatever. And we get up to take the phone, I'm like, Douglas, this is Jen's. See, that's exactly what she did.

SPEAKER_03 33:23

That's what happened. This is exactly what she did. I was I was in the back, we were loading stuff down, like we were just, I don't know, putting like a cord in somewhere. I don't know. And I was like, I'm gonna be fine, like, this is fine, it's just a it's a show. She's like, it's just a guy, it's just a guy. And then I see him just like standing there, I was like, oh my gosh, it's him. I was like, Sharice, what does he look like? Because like my brain was going crazy. I was like, what does he look like? I was like, I think that's when I tell you panics.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

I was like, Christian, get your shit together. Yeah. She's like, oh my god, that's ginsen apples. That's ginsen apples.

SPEAKER_03 33:55

I mean, it was that ginseng.

SPEAKER_02 33:56

This is him.

SPEAKER_03 33:56

It's like him, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

But does he? Oh wow, he's gonna be like, I thought he was eye fangirl because she was stressing me out so much. That's true.

SPEAKER_03 34:03

That's 100% true.

SPEAKER_02 34:04

So don't ever let her say that she didn't fangirl because she's like, I was cool as a cucumber bull.

SPEAKER_03 34:10

I I completely lost it for like the most ridiculous thing. Like by the time I actually like met him, met him, I I had regained some of my composure. But like I literally caught a glimpse of him like in the back, and I was like, oh my god, that's Jensen Apples, and I was just freaking out. So yeah, I was super embarrassing.

SPEAKER_02 34:28

And the little forehead kiss was so precious. We didn't he didn't prep us for that. You're remembering. Yeah, I think you blanked out. I did, but she was like, Because I still had to play, I still had to like there's just white noise in your ears, and you're like, yeah, yeah. So funny. But no, there was no there was no preemptive that he was gonna do that at all. Nope. It was really sweet though, and so thoughtful. He and I we all talked about it later, and he was just like, Yeah, y'all were too good for them to be literally turning their backs to you guys. Like, that's not fair.

Berly 35:02

So that's what I was about to say. Whenever I, whenever y'all's video first came across my feed, I honestly didn't even notice Jensen at first. I was like, What is this? What who are these? Like, for real, exactly. I just stopped and was like listening, and then I was like, Oh, that's that's why this is in my feed. He's he's over there, but agreed, agreed. Y'all are talented, and you deserved to be acknowledged that you were there sharing your talent with that room.

SPEAKER_03 35:26

So sweet. I appreciate it. It was honestly that was a that was such a fun day. Yeah, that was my first time performing ever in Texas. So, like that brewery was the first time I ever performed in Austin. So that was the whole day was just like a culmination of like me feeling like honestly, I'd had a very soft landing after after leaving my music job, the pandemic, everything like that. That was like my that was my sign that Texas was gonna be a good place for me. That's that's just me being sappy, mushy, and so earnest about you know how it was for me.

Sadie Witkowski 36:02

It is the live music capital of the world. I mean, it makes sense, you know.

SPEAKER_03 36:07

I've been trying to tell people back home in Mississippi, they're like, when are you coming home? Because they're like so many great people come out of Mississippi, and I'm saying it like it's a joke, but they we really do. But also, Austin has been like a place that we have actually gotten like a lot of just support. We have so many great musicians, um, great business owners. Anyway, I could go on.

SPEAKER_02 36:31

And I do, and I do attribute a lot of that just real briefly. I do attribute a lot of that to Scott at Family Business, Gino at Family Business, obviously Jensen. And of course Jensen, because they I think all three of them have been really really like intentional about their like advertising of us. We consistently get calls from other businesses in Austin because Gina's dropped a word or whatever. And it's just so sweet. Like once you build that bond with people and um kind of put the you know, the humanity, you you you look at them and their humanity, and they look at you and they see you know honest musicians just trying to make their make a way, and there is a part of you that's like, oh my god, it's Jensen Apples, you know, brother-in-law, and Jensen Apples, whatever. But then there's also just the reality of it and like the the trueness of it, and and Jen Jensen's been really, uh I think super beneficial and and obviously and honest and kind. She's an honest, honestly.

Berly 37:30

Like he's and he ain't too bad to look at either.

SPEAKER_03 37:34

So like he's not bad to look at. And he's like honestly, like a charming dude. But then, like, in like close quarters, like when we've interacted with him, as some of the the the videos will kind of show, like, he's honestly just a like a chill dude. Yeah, and he's so very Texas, you know, like me.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

Sweetest stage dad.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

And so and once again, I say this is why I was like, this is gonna be a soft landing for me here in Texas. I think I found my my place. I 100% did. You're welcome. I did that.

Berly 38:11

All right, so talk to us about the journey from the brewery to you guys performing with Radio Company on stage at the convention.

SPEAKER_03 38:21

Yeah, that is a okay. Let me see how to condense this. It's actually not it's not that weird of a story. It's literally like rinse and repeat of what happened at the brewery for different people, yeah, but the same sort of like reckless, no-branding sort of advertising of us. We literally just I literally fair with one drink. She can literally talk to anyone. Yeah, and that's not really me. It takes about four for that to happen for me. But this is what happened.

SPEAKER_02 38:53

So I we saw Steve Carlson at Saxon Pub. Um, he was called that place. I'm sorry, it's such a good venue. It's such a legitimate. It's such a cool venue. So bad. I've got to get in there. Um, but yeah, he was doing like a I think it's like a singer song right or not.

SPEAKER_03 39:11

For BMI music group.

SPEAKER_02 39:13

Yeah, and so we had gone to see him. A bunch of other people were there for him as well. Um, he was hiding out in the back because he literally hiding out in the back. Like he was just incognito, like hiding in the back. And I was going to the bathroom and I like saw him and I was like, hey, do you remember me?

SPEAKER_03 39:30

And and he was like, Oh yeah, y'all played blah blah because we'd like seen him play at uh Family Business before close twice. He played it there once for his birthday. He played, he played another show there, like a solo show and stuff. So like we'd seen him after we had performed. For me, which was honestly a pinnacle of seeing like a radio company member, yeah. And so Sharice's like, Hey, do you happen to need background singers? He's like, Oh, come back. Yes. He's like, and then he literally did he not give you like a set list that night, like his number and then a set list, and he's like, I'll call you and we'll chat. Literally next day he called me. And I'm thinking, like, dude, why are you giving your number out to somebody who's like, it's not that we just met, but like, dude, don't do that. Like, come on, have some self-preservation.

SPEAKER_02 40:14

Zero self-preservation. I love that about him. That's how it happened. Uh, yeah, that is how it happened. So he and I we exchanged information, and he was like, Yeah, I actually do need background singers for this event, blah blah blah. So then we've sung with him now, what, four times this uh October 9th will be our fourth um Steve Carlson and Friends concert that we do at the first time freshing call on and so we're we're kind of like built-in band now, but um, which is amazing.

SPEAKER_03 40:42

So, if if I may, how we got to radio company.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

You cut me off.

SPEAKER_03 40:46

Okay, would you like to do it? Yes, you were you're taking a long time. Go.

SPEAKER_02 40:49

So how so uh via Steve, he was like he called Jensen. He was like, hey, so they so I think um was it Oklahoma that was the first time we sung with them? Yes.

Berly 41:03

So we sung with them at the because I was there and I saw you guys, and uh yeah, I was waiting in line to get in so that I would be in the pit. And um, I saw you guys come in the front door, and I was like, what the fuck are they doing here? I haven't have they been walking around and I haven't seen them at all, or wait, and I know you were all dressed up, and I was like, they're gonna sing. That was and I started hitting, I started hitting my friend next to me, and I was like, they're gonna sing tonight, they're gonna sing tonight.

SPEAKER_02 41:28

And she was like, So I I feel like I saw you, but I I don't even I know Robin was there and a few other people, and I saw I saw them first. Everybody was like sitting on the floor, like outside the door, right? Yes, okay.

Berly 41:42

Yep. I almost I was I was almost getting up to come and get y'all, but then y'all looked like you figured out where you were supposed to be going because you were walking off and you literally were you were kind of just hanging out by the front door for a little bit, and like literally right when I got up to come talk to you, y'all started walking with a purpose, and I was like, Oh, yes, yes, because like I said, I figured out y'all were performance, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 42:03

I was so confused. I I really do want to clarify. It's the question, how do we sing for the first time at Radio Company? Or okay, because that wasn't Oklahoma wasn't the first time with radio open for them. We were no, we were in Austin. That was the first time. With the was that not there? No, second time.

Sadie Witkowski 42:20

Oklahoma was before the Austin con, if that helps. Because I was at the Austin Con, but not at Oklahoma.

Berly 42:25

Were y'all at the Sage Brush? Yes. Oh, that's what they're talking about. Yeah, right. Yeah, that was. I saw you at Sage Brush too. Yeah. That was last year. Oklahoma was last year.

unknown 42:34

Yeah.

Sadie Witkowski 42:35

Oh, okay. There is audience.

SPEAKER_02 42:37

Then Oklahoma was first. But that was the first time technically with radio company. Um was in Oklahoma City. And so, oh my gosh, that's the dancy dance. That's the best. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_03 42:50

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 42:51

So I'm done.

SPEAKER_03 42:52

I'm ready.

SPEAKER_02 42:52

Yeah, how funny was that?

Berly 42:54

That um hang on, I need to hear y'all's thoughts on the dancy dance. Dancy dancing.

SPEAKER_03 42:59

Okay, so so I just have to say two things. First of all, I honestly have forgotten that that night was where that video came from. Yeah. Because in my mind, since we started sing with Steve, I have just kind of like lost track of time, if we're being honest. And so I don't actually know like sometimes the things that I'm showing up for. Like, I understand that like it's like it's a con, or it's like a Steve show, yeah, or it's like a Steve and Friends show. Like I get it. But also, I forgot that that's when that came up because the dancey dance video is from that night, and that's literally like the only thing that I associate now with singing with radio company for some reason.

SPEAKER_02 43:36

The dancey dance.

SPEAKER_03 43:37

They just always start to oh, yeah, we just start jigging.

SPEAKER_02 43:40

Like that's just our thing. I don't know. Uh he he I loved it. He gets just so happy when he's on stage with other musicians, and like he'll he just engages. And I love seeing I love seeing musician Jensen. He's so good. He's so good at it. And I, you know, I think when he's around other musicians. He feels a little um more comfortable. And so he just kind of lets loose and it's it's the best. It's so fun. Um, but yeah, so kind of the the way that we got from you know the brewery to Oklahoma City where we performed.

SPEAKER_03 44:14

Steve was like, hey, y'all are here.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

Because we we have been long story, but we had been in Oklahoma City already for a girls' weekend that did end up happening totally separate from come coming. Then we were like, you know what, we're already here, let's go to the Saturday night special. Um, there's no reason not to. And so we texted Steve and we were like, hey, we're here, are you performing tonight? And he was like, Wait, y'all are here? And I was like, Yeah. And he's like, Hold on.

SPEAKER_03 44:39

Literally, he hangs up on her.

SPEAKER_02 44:40

He's like, I'll call you the second thing. So then he's like, I just talked to Jensen, can you guys sing all my living time tonight? I was like, Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:47

And then I thought to myself, Sharice, what did you just get us into? Yeah, I have like my combat boots, and I was just we were just gonna do the Saturday night special. We weren't there for the entire cute.

Berly 45:00

I saw y'all, y'all looked cute. I thought y'all were dressed up for performing.

SPEAKER_03 45:04

Absolutely not. That's what we both were on the point to wear at the cabin girls' retreat thing that didn't happen. Yeah, and I was like, Do I am I even prepared for this? And so literally, we're sitting in our hotel room and like practicing all my living time. And I'm like, what did you get us into, Sharice? You're welcome. And so that's how that happened. You're welcome. Long story short.

Berly 45:24

How did how did you get in to sing with Loud and was it with Loud and Swain, or was it just with Rob doing a couple of things? Loud and Swain. How did that happen?

SPEAKER_02 45:32

I know so fun. After the first um, after Oklahoma City, like we had hung out in the green room and backstage and stuff, and gotten a chance to meet with like all the band members and uh Rob and Jason and Billy, all of them. And they were all like, so when we're Mark Shepard off Street Mark, um when by the time we had left there, we they were like, Hey, we're we're coming to Austin. I was like, Yeah, no, we're we're coming to that convention, or at least the Saturday special for the convention. And Rob was like, I'll message you. And I was like, Okay, so like two weeks later, I honestly forgot in the conversation. Two weeks later, I get a message to our uh our band page from his band page, uh Lown Swain's page, and he was like, Hey, y'all were amazing and Rob or Billy, one of them. It was one of them, yeah. Y'all were amazing um in Oklahoma City. When we come to Austin, would you guys consider doing a song? I don't even remember. Angela.

SPEAKER_03 46:34

Angela was what we were gonna do, and then we ended up doing amazing, I think.

SPEAKER_02 46:37

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that happened like the the day of, of course.

SPEAKER_03 46:42

Literally, it happened. I I think that there's something I just want to underscore here. For everybody listening to y'all who thinks that like this is some coordinated effort to like propel us into like Jensen adjacent stardom. I need you to understand that these interactions literally spawn from like random texts with Steve, yeah, us being just completely unhinged with just talking to everybody and being like, hey, you need background singers? Seems like a cool thing to do. And then it literally just kind of metabolizes. And so we get these moments that like seem super planned. 100% planned, not planned. The only thing that was planned that night from at Hope Oklahoma City was that one time All My Living Time. Literally, I don't think we really practiced.

SPEAKER_02 47:35

Oh, the song the um Almost Anything Never Been to Spain in Austin. Learned that the day of was that in Austin? That was in Austin, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:42

That was in Austin, yeah. Sorry, different things. Um, what was the other one? The um Amazing Day that learned that the day of. Yeah, and I'm just like, so anything that looks like it's planned, I just need you to know that it's not. Not that planned, no. And I'm gonna do one more plug. That's probably something, but it's not it is intentional. Yeah, the only thing that is like planned is that we all are like we all know that, and this is something that I absolutely love about the supernatural cast because holy shit, they're all like music professionals. Yeah, I mean, not all of them, but you know what I'm saying. So many of them. It's uncanny how many of them are like so good in music, great at it, and like just I'm not I'm not saying they're bad actors. What I'm saying is that, like, holy shit, why have we not a job that they're so good more of their singles? And so, like, when we're backstage with like the cast or whoever's singing, everybody's just kind of like in their zone. Like, if something's like unclear, we're just chatting through it. And it really feels, for me as somebody who studied music, it really just feels like one of those um amazing communities of musicians. Like, I would not necessarily know they were actors if somebody took a screenshot, a screenshot, somebody took a snapshot of us like backstage. It really just feels like this is just a show we're doing with the with the band that's tonight, and we're just gonna make it work. Yeah, so everything that you see on stage is actual chemistry, yeah, whether or not everything is planned.

SPEAKER_02 49:13

I don't know if that makes sense, but it's very that's I think I said this earlier, it's very organic, and I think that's what's made it so fun. It's just that it's it's been right place, right time, right conversation. And also they're just so open and accepting and kind of the sweetest people.

Sadie Witkowski 49:34

And I also want to say that y'all are just performing at a level high enough that they're like, we know we can call you in on the day up and like you're gonna learn it and be like ready to rock and roll. Like you gotta you gotta be at that level already to be able to just be like, call me in, coach, I'm ready. Yeah, girl, you know what?

Berly 49:50

I was about to say, I feel like y'all's talent has something to do with it. I mean, I hear you, I hear you.

SPEAKER_03 49:55

Like this talented, honestly, something to do with it, like except thank you. That's appropriate, but inappropriate.

Berly 50:03

You're not giving yourselves enough credit here.

SPEAKER_02 50:05

Maybe not, I never do, but I don't know. I mean, here's my thing. If you if you challenge me with like, for example, never been to Spain, never heard that song in my life. It's a great song now that I've heard it.

SPEAKER_03 50:16

Um never forget it.

SPEAKER_02 50:18

But apparently Steve and Jensen have been just like talking about it for weeks now, and Jensen's like, oh, I want to do this, and Steve's like, yeah, let's do that. And then they realized that the other one wasn't gonna sing harmony. No, it's really true. So they were like, uh, this needs harmony. And Steve's like, hey, so there's the song. And I was like, really? I only two hours before the concert.

SPEAKER_03 50:39

So I we told you that like we performed with like Steve and friends at like Pershing Hall in Austin several times now. So the show before the Austin con. Steve, it was like a Thursday, and then the thing was on Saturday. Steve was like, Oh, it's gonna be really cool, y'all, because he just gives us rundowns of everything. I'm doing the Steve voice. He just gets excited about like everything to me, or at least that's how I hear it. He's like, Oh my gosh, guys, we're gonna do this song, we're gonna do a song that's like never been to Spain. And we had just recorded sail on with him that's about him being in Majorca at the port of Soyer. And so I was like, oh, that's excellent. It's a wonderful like meta lore sort of like Spain stuff going on. And so my neurodivergent mind was just happy that there was like a connection. But then literally, he told us about that song. We were not in it. He was just telling us about the songs.

SPEAKER_02 51:29

He said, Oh, me and Jensen are gonna do this.

SPEAKER_03 51:30

I was like, literally, great. And then come to find out, none of the guys at loud and so am I throwing them under the bus? No, this is what I was told. Nobody learned it, and so they were like, uh, bring them up there. Y'all can learn this. And so that's literally how it happened that we were up there for that song. So I don't know. It's it's not always planned.

Berly 51:50

Not planned. You make it work though. You make it work. You're professional. I'm sorry, we're talking so much. Well, just for the remainder of the conversation, do y'all want to talk more about the Scott Sisters journey, or do either of you have any thoughts about music from the TV series that you'd like to share?

SPEAKER_03 52:07

I have I have two things for the I I'll take I'll take I'll take both the music from the series, particularly um as a person that kind of was passively watching Supernatural, but then actively like listening to radio companies' music at the time that I was kind of getting steeped in this in this world of these actors and musicians, I just had no idea how um musically savvy the cast and crew was of Supernatural. And so now looking back at like uh the soundtracks and the songs that were chosen and the songs that maybe unintentionally kind of went viral and associated with the show, um they make so much sense now, knowing a little bit more about the people behind it. I don't know Eric Kripty, I've never met him, but now knowing like uh a little bit more about Jensen, now knowing a little bit more about Mark Shepherd, uh Rob, all of the people in Loud and Swain, it makes so much sense that the show was like steeped in such good music, such good, honest, like rock and roll that is just accessible, timeless, yeah, and like jinx and like jinx and just really I would say um to my music teacher brain, it's a very musically consistent soundtrack, the music that was used in Supernatural. Sometimes like in shows that run so long, they'll like dibble dabble in like different genres of music throughout the series to kind of convey or you know enhance whatever's going on. But like Supernatural to me stayed pretty in its vein from day one. I know a lot of that was probably based on the characters within the show, um, and that I was about to say none of them got killed off. Well, they didn't get killed off forever every time, except one. I don't know how that works anyway.

SPEAKER_02 54:15

I feel like everybody doesn't know.

SPEAKER_03 54:16

Supernatural fans will know why I'm saying that with question marks in my voice. But like, yeah, I just I just I am honestly in awe of the consistency of that. And and now getting to see a little bit behind the curtain and just to know that like so many people on that cast are just musicians, just honest rock and roll folks. It's freaking awesome. So those are my those are my thoughts about that. Do you have anything to add?

SPEAKER_02 54:42

Yeah, so I I think something that I I can't say specifically for like the the actual music, like the song choices and stuff that are kind of the soundtrack of of Supernatural, but for me, I I love that it feels like just kind of like what Christian was saying, like everybody that had a musical uh impact in Supernatural, I feel like while acting might be what they're known for, I feel like they're genuinely so good at also meeting. Um I was thinking about Lisa Berry because she's incredible, like, right? I know, and so like she's so good. And I remember her saying, I think she posted something on Instagram, and she was like, I hadn't sung in years until they asked me to sing um O Death. I think it was O Death, yeah. Oh that one, yeah. And she's like, Yeah, I had I lost all confidence in my voice and all this stuff, and I think that's I think that speaks to kind of how supernatural is it just everybody they might that might not be their first thing, you know, the first thing that they do. They might not consider themselves singers, but then they are tasked with you know singing something that's just so good. And so yeah, I I I just respect um oh my gosh, the humility that they have as far as being exceptional musicians, and they're just like, oh you know, that's just part of my job. And I'm like, no, you're actually really good at this. So yeah, it's just great to see them kind of bloom, you know, and sing more. And and I know Lisa said she she started singing more as well and taking voice lessons again.

SPEAKER_03 56:22

Oh my gosh. Just it's and like to know that like Brianna's in musical theater, yeah. And um, I I was just like, oh cool. Kim, I think, you know, Kim too, right? Kim, does Kim is Kim, does she sing, sing? Yeah, she sings. She sings, sings. Yeah, yeah. Um, oh my gosh, it's just it's just they're incredible, unrivaled musical talent in that cast and crew. Yeah. So I'm just agreed. It's it's it's a huge freaking honor. Yeah. I um I just I just want to say this last thing about the the cast and crew. Yeah, or just this show in particular. Um I have realized that there is like this really amazing crossover in creatives, no matter where you kind of land or how you pay your bills or whatever. Creatives tend to be kind of all we tend to all kind of get along, I think. And I really, really, really, really, really have loved seeing mostly because she sent me clips of this, Shri sent me clips of this. I um really enjoyed seeing like the transformation of Jensen like 15 years ago singing and like strumming on guitars, turning away from the crowd, to like hamming it up, like you know, in the time that I've known him in his little dancey dance. And I'm just to me, any any sort of environment that uh pushes people or encourages people to be vulnerable, to perform more, to be seen and express themselves. That is like uh no matter if it's choir, no matter if it's acting, no matter if it's theater or visual art, any place that kind of engenders that sort of growth and uh self-expression, I think it's just like a solid place to be, no matter what the context is. And to me, that is what for me, that's what'll stay with me for years to come. After I've forgotten all of the episodes in order, I will still remember that this cast and crew are just steeped in creative acts of service. I don't know if that makes any sense, but it's just it's so awesome. Agreed. So yeah.

Sadie Witkowski 58:45

All right. Well, I guess um I want to kick it off and just talk about Family Business Beer Company as a venue. I know it's a total bummer that their tap room is closed. I know they're looking for future venues. I am so excited to see them open a tap room a little closer into Austin. But it was such a special space because it had this really cool stage setup that was in the main room and it wasn't, it didn't feel like a big stage. It was probably only like maybe like eight inches or a foot up, but it did like have this really cool effect of turning what could just be like having beers with the friends being like, oh, there's live music. Oh, these are great performers. Um, and I've seen I've seen several performances there. I saw Steve Carlson actually play there for his birthday a couple years ago, and I was just like, Yeah, this is a vibe. I'm into it.

Berly 59:31

It's always looked really cute, but LA and I have never got to go. Like the first we've gone to Austin for the convention twice, and we didn't know about it before that. The first time we didn't go, I think it didn't work out for us to leave early for us to go because, like you said, Sadie, it's near Austin, but you do have to make special plans if you're gonna go out there. In fact, I think it was closed before this second Austin convention already.

Sadie Witkowski 1:00:01

Yeah, yeah, because the uh there was like a uh family business uh FBBC meetup, but it was at um South Austin taps, I think, or something like that. It was on South Lamar. Right. Um yeah, no, I definitely joined. I'm I'm a proud family member. I go I've went gone to the members only parties and I brought my brother with me.

LA 1:00:21

Why did the tap room close?

Sadie Witkowski 1:00:23

Uh a big part of it was just that like they really wanted to move into Austin and get something closer because and I will say this like my parents live out in dripping springs. You can get an Uber out there, but trying to get an Uber back is really, really difficult because it is far enough and it's very expensive. And so then it became this issue. Like, I don't think they have this issue, but I think there was some concerns about like, oh, people come out, they have a great time, they don't have a safe way to get back home. Like, we would prefer it if we were more in the city, it would be easier for folks that are visiting from out of town. Um, so I know, like, I know it's an ongoing search, but I think it was just trying to like yeah, make have a better option. And in the meantime, you know, it's it's expensive to operate a big facility like that.

LA 1:01:05

Okay.

Berly 1:01:06

It was just far enough that if if you were planning a trip to Austin, you had to like pre-plan for dripping springs to be on the itinerary as kind of its own day trip, basically.

Sadie Witkowski 1:01:16

Yeah, you had to like plan to rent a car for that day or knew someone who was gonna drive you, or yeah, it like there's no way to get out there otherwise. So bummer. But they still, I will say you can still find family business in HEBs across the state. Um, and I think also in specs, which is like the big liquor store. So, I mean, every time I go home, my parents know the deal. I got a six pack of Cosmic Cowboy and a 20 pack of HEB tortillas.

LA 1:01:44

Those tortillas are good. I know.

Berly 1:01:47

Yeah. Now, Radio Company, they are more consistently doing events with creation entertainment though, right? Like they're we're probably going to see them at more locations in 2026 where they do not only performances at Saturday Night Special, but they also do their own panel. Didn't you go to an event with Radio Company at a convention, Sadie?

Sadie Witkowski 1:02:14

Yeah, I went to their um I went to their first panel that they had in Austin, uh, which was also before the the Sage Brush show that they had. That was, yeah, um, wild. But yes, I did go to their their panel. In that case, because it was in Austin, they did a barbecue dinner and panel. And so we all got lovely brisket and sausage. Um, I was like, oh, it's not Terry Black's. No, it was great. It's fine. And and they talked a bit about the songwriting, how they started working together, took questions about lyrics from songs, inspiration, things they listened to, and they played a few songs or pieces of songs. I think it's evolved even since then. I don't think they do the dinner anymore. And I think that it's an even smaller group than that first one was. So I think it's much more intimate, you know, feels more like a jam kind of thing. Uh, but I have not been since then. Maybe I gotta re-up my tickets.

Berly 1:03:10

I don't think that LA has seen Radio Company. I know she's seen Jensen perform, but not Radio Company.

LA 1:03:16

Yeah, when y'all were talking about that, I was about to say, I don't think I've seen the actual whole band, just him.

Sadie Witkowski 1:03:22

Yeah. Well, the one other thing I wanted I wanted to say about this episode, because I don't like we're talking about radio company. That's not who we listen to today. I really wanted to focus on the live music scene in Austin because I think like both the Scott Sisters and Night Parade are so representative of that scene where it's like you just you go out and you look for venues and you meet people who know somebody who say, like, come play at Pershing Hall with me. Oh, we need backup singers. Like, come join us. It's a really even though Austin has changed a lot, I think the live music scene is still very welcoming and like is really happy to include new voices and new talent. And there's just a freaking venue at every coffee shop and dive bar. It's great.

Berly 1:04:02

And I loved, I love the Scott Sister sister. I feel or Scott Sister Sister, Scott Sisters story. I feel like that was an embodiment of all of that. And coming back to seeing Saturday Night Special and seeing a radio company perform, they really do add to that live performance. Just up there smiling and dancing and giving that backup. Uh so it's it's a wonderful thing that they've started adding them, just giving the music that extra layer.

Sadie Witkowski 1:04:33

Yeah, I love it. They look like they're having so much fun. Gotta gotta get in all the dancy dances. Yeah.

LA 1:04:40

I like that you've you were gonna take it upon yourself to go help them out and find where they were supposed to be going. Not that that's about them, but I was like sitting there listening, and I was like, she would just go up there and be like, you guys need help?

Sadie Witkowski 1:04:55

I'm your new tour guide. No, I don't know where I'm going either. It's fine.

LA 1:05:00

I thought that was funny.

Berly 1:05:01

Well, I've been trying to make it a point to introduce myself to them because we've chatted a few times back and forth, uh just in DMs, you know. So I wanted to kind of I've been making trying to make it a point to go introduce myself to them in person. And it's just been almost every time I've seen them out, I've been like, oh, there they are. And finishing the conversation I'm having or something, and then by the time I'd have I'm at a point where I can head that way, they're gone. Or they're en route to somewhere else.

Sadie Witkowski 1:05:27

So if it makes you feel better, the first way that I met Night Parade was at one of the family reunion parties. And my brother had to leave early because he was meeting his girlfriend now fiance for something, for some friend event they were going to. And I was like, Yeah, don't worry, I'll get a ride. I'm how I know you can't get Ubers from family business. Um, and I had been drinking all day. They're wonderful products, and I needed a ride home. And Gina was like, Have you met Allison? She was on stage for night parade. And Allison gave me a ride back to my brother's apartment in Austin. Wow. I was like, boy, I really hope I wasn't just like a drunk mess. I was like, Thank you so much. You seem so great. We should hang out at a con.

Berly 1:06:09

I promise if we ever do an episode where it would apply, I'm going to have you on the podcast. Yes.

Sadie Witkowski 1:06:16

I will make up for this with free promotion. Yeah.

Berly 1:06:24

Now for the show's credits. This season is a co-production between Denim Wrapped Nightmares and In Defense of Fandom. Cover art for In Defense of Fandom was designed by Liz Hamm. Cover art for denim wrapped nightmares was designed by Rain Zielman.

Sadie Witkowski 1:06:43

Music featured in this episode was by Radio Company. You can see links to our featured guests' music and more in the show notes.

LA 1:06:51

If you've enjoyed this collaboration we want to know, send us a message on Instagram or Twitter. We love hearing from you.

Sadie Witkowski 1:06:58

And while you're at it, make sure you're subscribed to both shows so you never miss an episode.

Berly 1:07:03

Also, a review on Apple Podcasts wouldn't hurt either.

LA 1:07:08

See you next episode.

Berly 1:07:11

Bye.