DwN's Finale: Season 8

Berly and LA close out Season 8 with their special features breakdown, a giveaway announcement, and all the wrap-up goodness you could ask for!

First up: The Giveaway! They're giving away a large Denim-Wrapped Nightmares tote bag (big enough for groceries, the beach, or your emotional baggage) plus a blood sploogge zipper pouch (perfect for makeup, toiletries, or—given the design—feminine products). To enter, post about why you adore the podcast on social media, tag them, and use #DWNPod.

The hosts dive into Season 8's special features, which they agree are way better than previous seasons—less "are Michael and Lucifer brothers?" nonsense, more actual behind-the-scenes goodness. Highlights include learning that the "Bitten" found footage episode needed a veteran director because it was way harder than expected, discovering the tablets storyline was inspired by Raiders of the Lost Ark vibes, and getting a whole featurette about why Castiel is important (which feels ironic since they tried to kill him off last season).

Best gag reel moment? Jensen face-planting, shown FOUR times, plus mounting evidence that Jared Padalecki is an absolute menace on set.

They wrap up with favorite episodes (spoiler: both loved Charlie episodes, Berly's obsessed with Benny), discuss their 72 blood splooges to date, add more ideas to their American Horror Stories-inspired revival list (now at 45+ concepts), and say goodbye to recurring characters they don't expect back.

Important announcement: They're taking a break for their Supernatural Music Extravaganza—a 20th-anniversary celebration that somehow ballooned from 3-4 episodes to 10. Season 9 coverage returns in January 2025!

Sources:

• Angel Warrior featurette - https://youtu.be/S0giqQl4xvM?si=wsSUkWYcFL41aRtS
• Gag reel - https://youtu.be/7fx0D7-kp-g?si=X0eM8e77_3Cu_WGd

Transcript

Berly: 0:01

Welcome to Dina Wrapped Nightmares, a tipsy exchange podcast, where we explore the supernatural series episode by episode.

LA: 0:10

Over drinks, we'll discuss the lore, the gore, and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.

Berly: 0:17

I'm Burley, and I'm a new fan of the series.

LA: 0:20

I'm LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get tipsy.

Berly: 0:26

Hello, LA. Hey Burley. On our last episode, titled Sacrifice, with Crowley, guest star Mark Shepherd, poised to undo all the good they've ever done as hunters. Sam and Dean find themselves cornered. But with Kevin's guest star Osric Chow help, the Winchester brothers bound into one last play against the Demon King. Metatron, guest star Curtis Armstrong, initiates a plan with Castille, guest star, Misha Collins, to take on Naomi, guest star Amanda Tapping, and the bureaucracy of heaven. Elena Huffman and Kim Rhodes, also guest star. A lot of guest stars. I had to get them all in there. My goodness. Good thing I used my speaking in parentheses voice for all of that, though, so that you can easily tell that that's what was happening in that sentence.

LA: 1:23

Oh yes.

Berly: 1:24

What are we doing today, LA? Those special features. Hell yeah. But first, we're gonna announce a giveaway. We are giving away. LA wanted me to show it to her while I talked about the giveaway. I need the reveal. We're giving away a large denim wrap nightmares tote bag. That's big. Fucking big too, right? Yeah. This is gonna be good for grocery stores. The beach pool bag. As we're going into December here. And also in the tote bag with the tote bag is a denim wrapped nightmares blood splooge zipper pouch.

LA: 2:12

Oh cute!

Berly: 2:14

Perfect for makeup.

LA: 2:16

Little bit of makeup.

Berly: 2:17

I was thinking like pads and tampons because of the blood sploogge on the bag. Yeah, yeah. But y'all could use it for makeup, toiletries, pens, whatever you want. It's a decent sized little zip bag here. And it works.

LA: 2:37

Very nice.

Berly: 2:38

Positive. Alright, so that's the giveaway. You'll get this for free. Retail value of I don't know. It was more than 50 bucks though. So and you don't have to pay shipping. It'll just get sent to you.

LA: 2:52

What do they have to do to sign up?

Berly: 2:53

Well, in order to enter the giveaway, we want you to post on your favorite social platform about why you adore denim wrapped nightmares. Tag our account and use the hashtag DWN Pod. That's D W N P-O-D. Denim Wrapped Nightmares is on Blue Sky, Facebook, Instagram, Threads, TikTok, Tumblr, Twitter, and YouTube. You can just share why you like us in general, talk about your favorite episode and our coverage on it, or talk about your favorite denim wrapped nightmares episode, because I think some of our best episodes on the podcast were not necessarily the best episodes on the show. Right. They don't always align, right? So go ahead and do that. Tell your friends about the pod, why you like the pod, tag us and use the hashtag so we know you're doing the giveaway, and we will contact the winner on social and let them know that they have won the prize.

LA: 4:04

Are you gonna like give them a shout-out on like our next episode?

Berly: 4:07

Oh, sure, we can do that. Yeah, we can do a shout-out whenever we start season nine because it's gonna be a while, guys. We'll talk a little bit more about that toward the end of today's episode. But yeah, we could give them a shout-out in season nine. Uh also not part of the giveaway, but as always, we appreciate it if you leave a review on Apple Podcasts, Pod Chaser, Facebook, Audible, Podcast Addict, or Good Pods. Uh, the only reason why that's not part of the giveaway is that there's no way for us to contact you in this method. People's usernames on these platforms are not always going to line up to their socials, and just there's no way to get for us to get in touch with you. But we really do appreciate them and we'll read them on the show whenever we have them available. Speaking of, we actually have a couple. These were submitted through our fan comments that you can contact on um our webpage. The link is actually in the show notes for you uh to text us your review. You can also comment on Spotify, by the way, on specific episodes letting us know stuff. But this is a fan text that we received. It said, after eight seasons of podcast, this podcast is still as fun since day one. Love, laugh, cried, even puked in my mouth a little, as Meg would say. And supernatural wrapped in a nutshell quote from Dean Winchester. A wise man once told me, family don't end in blood, but it doesn't start there either. Family cares about you, not what you can do for them. Family's there through the good, the bad, all of it. They got your back, even when it hurts. That's the fandom in a nutshell. Thanks, Daryl. Thank you, Daryl. I loved it. And then we also have another one. Denim wrapped nightmares is amazing. Burley and LA's chemistry is wonderful. Together, they make me as a fan feel seen, saying all the things that I don't always say out loud. They have given me new perspective on episodes I maybe didn't appreciate before. These ladies give the SPN family the best moments to enjoy again and again. So thank you guys. We love your reviews. Again, not for the giveaway, but we'll still read them on the podcast and appreciate them. And when we're not feeling great about ourselves, maybe go back and read them again, you know, like just normal things that people do. So, what are we doing again today, LA?

LA: 6:35

Okay, we are gonna go over the special features for season eight.

Berly: 6:39

There weren't that many.

LA: 6:41

But I liked these way better than past seasons.

Berly: 6:44

Right. Like I don't need to be cluttered with special features personally.

LA: 6:48

Well, it was almost like sometimes the past ones they did too much. It was like too into detail about the storylines that they chose or something. And this was nice.

Berly: 6:57

Like, I'll never forget that one lore where we watched and it's like, but are Michael and Lucifer brothers? And it's like it was never answered. They just asked the question like 15 times throughout the entire featurette.

LA: 7:09

It was too much. Yeah. These were perfect though. It was so what we had three and then a gag reel.

Berly: 7:15

Mm-hmm.

LA: 7:15

I liked them there about 20-ish minutes each one.

Berly: 7:18

Yeah, and there was also some episodes with commentary, but we haven't done those on any of the seasons thus far. We're still planning to go back and watch all of the episodes that had commentary on them after we finished the entire series.

LA: 7:31

So, well, for each of these, there were many people on each little segment. I tried to get a lot of names, but I know I missed some, so please forgive me.

Berly: 7:41

Robert Singer looks good in that green shirt.

LA: 7:43

He did. He did.

Berly: 7:43

That was a good color. Ben Edlin looks so cute. Whenever he came on, we were both like, ah! Yeah. He looks almost the same. Like his hair's his hair color is different now. Like he's not coloring his hair or anything. So that's gone completely different. But just like his face was pretty much the same. Yeah. I'll just grow up and explosion.

LA: 8:02

So yeah, so I guess up front I'll just list off who was in it that I was able to write down. And then because I'm not gonna, I my notes are a little scattered, so it's like I didn't catch every quote from whoever was saying it, but I got to write down.

Berly: 8:15

Ask Ben about his scrunchies.

LA: 8:17

Oh, I forgot.

Berly: 8:19

You did another time.

LA: 8:20

This time, yeah. In this first one, it was titled Finding Supernatural, Creating the Found Footage episode, which was bitten.

Berly: 8:29

And I'll say right off the bat, we got our answer. We wondered why Jensen Ackles didn't direct that episode. And holy shit, it needed a veteran director like Thomas Wright.

LA: 8:38

Well, and it's crazy because you think you didn't have the proper camera operators working on it, so you would think, oh, it's gonna be easier. Same. No, it was it was a really interesting really detailed. Um, but yeah, so they we had, was it Robbie Thomas as a writer? Thompson. Thompson, yeah, I just can't read. Robbie Thompson um was a writer on this one. Todd Arinar.

Berly: 9:02

Arinar. Arinar. Arinar.

LA: 9:05

Producer. Thomas Wright was the director, Phil Segrisha, producer, Jeremy Carver producer, John McCarthy was the first AD, Serge, the C and Don Coch. Cock. Coch. Cock. Coch. Coke was the editor.

Berly: 9:24

Cock. We're going with Cock.

LA: 9:26

Okay. And I think that's everybody I wrote down.

Berly: 9:29

I think it was probably Coke as well, but I'm still gonna say Cock. Don Cock.

LA: 9:32

Did I say Jeremy Carver? Yes. Okay. Adam Glass, right?

Berly: 9:36

Oh yeah. We had to go back and find him. Wait, was he on this one? Was he not? There were so many people. I know. Like only three speacherettes, but so many people.

LA: 9:45

Well, and that was like I was as I was doing my notes, I'm like, there's no way I'm gonna keep up with who's saying what. So I'm just gonna have who's there and then I think you've done good coverage. Okay. Well, I liked that. I think it was Adam Glass. I could be wrong. But he was saying that um Robert Singer and Jeremy Carver are the ones that said yes to doing a found footage episode to begin with. When they they um pitched it to him. And I think I can't remember.

Berly: 10:10

It was Robbie Thompson, because Robbie Thompson wrote it.

LA: 10:12

And they said they approved it. They said yes to the found footage episode. And I liked, I think it was Jeremy Carver when he was kind of talking about in the beginning when they were talking about it, it was very much they were thinking of Blair Witcher Chronicle, and uh just about how the footage it's almost it's yeah, I think he he said it's almost naughty. Yeah.

Berly: 10:32

Yeah, he did. I liked that. I liked how he said it too. Yeah. He's like, it's naughty.

LA: 10:40

But he they were talking about just how this found footage makes it very real and almost a little scarier because it's it's more grounded in reality to us the way we're viewing it. And they do reference going back to the one of the first times they did it with Ghost Facers, which I love. They decided to break up the story, which was originally just that little love triangle, but then they broke it up and it's pretty much all just unfolding in front of your eyes as we go through the episode. The young actors are the camera people, and they had to they realized, you know, with this particular episode, Sam and Dean weren't even gonna be in it very much. So they kind of had to rethink how they were gonna do that and put them into the found footage as well.

Berly: 11:23

The three actors were adorable.

LA: 11:26

They were, and you could tell they were so excited to be the ones working the camera, but then even when the director came over and he was talking with, I think Brian, who was played by Lee Parker. Yes, and just giving him they they were almost getting onto them for being too good, right? It was funny that he's like he's like, it's too good.

Berly: 11:47

You need to need to be messier, a little slop, slop it up a little bit, slop it up a little bit, um, and just the cheesy grins that they had on their faces when they were talking about it. Yeah, yeah. And just what a unique experience for three young actors, right?

LA: 12:00

And you they you could tell they had so much fun. Is that what you just said?

Berly: 12:05

Yeah, but the chemistry between them was adorable as well. Like you could tell the three of them really bonded, and I feel like that helped translate in the episode. You know, like you really were felt like you were seeing this little trio go having to go through these major obstacles here. It was it was really cute. I thought they I I'm happy they included them in that little interview with them on the couch and everything.

LA: 12:27

I know the one guy had his arm around her and everything. I mean, they were squished on that little couch, it was cute, but it was so cute.

Berly: 12:33

I wouldn't have minded, I would have been fine. Right, Mike guest star Brandon Jones.

LA: 12:38

Right. I liked that it was, I think Serge was the one that said the actors were a little too good with the camera work. And I think that surprised everybody, which is cool. But um, even the editor had to change some things when he was editing. I think he said he had to make it even grittier and kind of dirt, almost dirty it up a little bit because it was too clean for what they were wanting the vision they had. Yeah.

Berly: 13:02

Thomas Wright was really cute working with the actors too. Yeah, being so patient with them and like demonstrating to them like, okay, I want you to kind of sit on the chair and like you're aware of the camera, but like don't be overly on it.

LA: 13:16

And and you can tell, I mean, just such mutual respect, too. They were, I mean, they just the vibe of the whole set that they show, even like the first AD, John McCarthy, and everybody, just so it was like so chill and calm, especially with it being such a different setup. How um was it Thomas Wright? Thomas Wright was in a completely different room. You know, they didn't have they couldn't see what was actually being filmed.

Berly: 13:42

Yeah, he was saying like because it was those handhelds, there was no way to wire them to Video Village. Right. So he couldn't see anything on the screens. Didn't he say that he even had to tell the the actors that one of you's gonna have to yell cut to let me know when the scene is done?

LA: 13:57

And you he I think he said they had a lot of fun with that. Yeah. Um but yeah, like what an odd setup. You would think everybody would be like stressed doing something completely different and new and kind of out of the box, but it was such seemed like such a chill vibe. And I love that they um talked and kind of went a little more in depth in the scene where the actor changes into the werewolf in the mirror. Yeah. I liked that. That was really interesting to see how that they transitioned all of that, plus when he was talking about editing it.

Berly: 14:27

And we even got to see them putting in his contacts and everything. That was really interesting.

LA: 14:33

He looked like he was having a good time getting those teeth in and everything. Right.

Berly: 14:36

He was having fun with it. Yeah, and he was he was so serious whenever Thomas Wright was like explaining to him what to do, and like, but I don't want to look down. And Thomas Wright like humming him down, like, no, no, no, it's fine. You're videotaping yourself, so it's fine. It makes sense for you to look down and see that you're doing what you want to do and zooming in and getting it right.

LA: 14:53

And that they wanted just that close-up shot close up with his eyes. And man, he did. I mean, they I mean, granted, I think it was like the second take or something. Who knows what? But I was impressed. Right. He did exactly what he told him to do.

Berly: 15:07

Well, there was a part later on where Kate played by Brit Sheridan, where they were really praising her because they were saying this was like panning back and forth and having to do all this, and with the pacing and all these kinds of things that can be difficult, but she got it done in one shot.

LA: 15:22

It was good too, because you know, especially when you have to pan, sometimes you it goes so fast and it like gives you whiplash, but she just did it like perfectly. And they I think they said it was perfect, they didn't have to do anything to it except for just the audio. The audio, yeah.

Berly: 15:37

Which we made the joke during that episode that when she zoomed in, the the microphone picked up the audio better for some reason.

LA: 15:44

Oh yeah. And then another thing that was interesting was that they didn't use any of their composers, they almost virtually removed any music except for that Milo Green song that he puts on in the beginning. He's I think Phil Scracia said, You hear it in the beginning, you hear it in the end. And then they had little bits of like just the music throughout. So that was like the one thread of music going through the whole episode, which I had to I didn't even recognize, but then when he as soon as he said it, I was like, Oh yeah.

Berly: 16:13

Yeah.

LA: 16:14

Obviously. Why did I I mean I I don't know why that was so surprised to me when he said it, but I was like, that's so smart. Mm-hmm. The next one was for the defense of mankind, the tablets revealed, which you revealed that you were tired of the tablets.

Berly: 16:28

I know. I was like, oh, we're gonna learn about the tablets, but man, I hope they're done. Because the tablet tablet this tablet that we found out in the featurette, they're not they're not done. They're apparently not done. And that's okay. It's just like two seasons of tablets now.

LA: 16:44

I'm like, well, and that's one of the things they said when they started out with the Leviathan tablet.

Berly: 16:51

Oh, well, I guess they're gonna have to use the angel tablet to fix heaven, I guess. Okay, that makes sense. That actually makes sense.

LA: 16:58

I mean, maybe they'll take care of it real quick in the first couple episodes.

Berly: 17:02

Maybe.

LA: 17:03

And then we'll move on.

Berly: 17:04

I doubt it. I'm just trying to get it. But that's okay. That's okay. I'll survive. I'll survive. Okay.

LA: 17:13

Well, this one pretty much had everybody in it, um, but plus Adam Glass ended- was Edlund in this one? I think he was just in.

Berly: 17:21

I think Ben Edlund was in it a little bit, yeah.

LA: 17:23

Okay. Again, forgive me if I forget some people that were in it. There were there were so many.

Berly: 17:28

There were so many, so many guest stars.

LA: 17:30

But uh, I think with the this season and the tablet storyline, they were saying how most of their episodes are kind of procedural. And they felt like with the tablets, it was a little more adventurous. They were going on a journey. And I I like um somebody said it was like somebody told them it was Raiders of the Lost Ark kind of journey that they're gonna go on through this season.

Berly: 17:54

It's just like with the MCU and the stones and the whatever, yeah.

LA: 17:58

Well, and what was it they said a couple times, like with something from our history that's just like roving throughout society, things like that.

Berly: 18:06

Like you said, it's well, they were just talking about like the mythology of like having to seek something out, like the holy grail or the sphere of destiny. Like there's all these stories of having to seek out this thing that was going to somehow give you something. And in this case, what the tablets were going to give them was information that they wouldn't have been able to get anywhere else.

LA: 18:27

Right. Um, but they said after two years of on the Leviathans, they felt like it was time that they could get back to the angels and demons, but they just in kind of a different way this time with the tablets.

Berly: 18:37

We've done God's apocalypse. Now let's come up with one of our own. Let's fuck up heaven and hell.

LA: 18:43

Yeah, again, Bobby Singer and Jeremy Carver. Bobby? Oh my god. Bob Singer and Jeremy Carver were the ones that kind of thought up the what is it, the Herculean trials. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. To kind of throw the boys through the gauntlet. Uh, which, I mean, with the trials and everything going on, but um, they did touch on a lot how hard it is for Dean to really be seeing Sam doing the trial and everything and not him, and that how that's affected both of them.

Berly: 19:16

What did Rob Sing Singer say? He said something like, you know, Dean's pretty much like, I'm dead. You're gonna live till 80 eating a sandwich. Yeah. Or something like that. I was like, what's a sandwich gotta do with it?

LA: 19:26

Oh, he's gonna die eating like a ham sandwich. Eating it at like 80. And I was like, okay. Oh yeah, Mark Shepard and Misha pop in for commentary on this one too. And they just touch on I I liked that uh, oh, Jared and Jensen come in too. Then I think that they seemed a little worried at the beginning of this because they were I think J Jared was the one who said, I didn't sign up to be on a show about religion. Right. And Jensen kind of said something similar, but obviously they didn't take it down that road. But they mentioned how even aboriginal tribes had totems, and so there's all this things of making something mythological or that's like the Dead Sea Scrolls, it's like stuff like that. Something tangible, almost like proof-like for for us to believe our beliefs in a way. Right. And they talked about how with Kevin he's this oracle prophet, and he can see patterns in life, and then he can make the predictions. He's and instead of having this sage-like wizard or some something, they decided to make it just an every everyman person who became this prophet, and how you know, most people think, oh, it's great to be something like that. I've been chosen. Yeah, but no, like, I mean, no, he doesn't want it at all.

Berly: 20:40

Yeah. They're like, but in our world, it's like, oh fuck, I'm a prophet.

LA: 20:45

Yeah. And then he too has to go on this journey to, you know, what I think they were saying about heroes where he has to go on the journey to kind of earn the the hero status at the end. And, you know, it's not like he can just he he sees it and it's it's there.

Berly: 21:00

Well, and also he doesn't want it, right? He's a reluctant hero. He's accepted that it's his responsibility, but fuck, would he give it to somebody else in a heartbeat if he could? Yeah, probably.

LA: 21:11

But yeah, so like Kevin's storyline is not really the story of the myth, but the story of the chosen one, like you said. Um, and so they touched on all of those little things.

Berly: 21:20

They acknowledged that you know, he's not Kevin Tran. I'm an AP student, like he's a very different character now.

LA: 21:27

Oh, yeah.

Berly: 21:28

Which is very true. Like we that he's been through it.

LA: 21:31

Yeah.

Berly: 21:32

Through a journey.

LA: 21:33

Well, we've we've touched on how each little time he does something, you know, out of out of the blue for him. We're we're impressed. He's growing, he's getting through it, adapting. Yeah. So that was kind of the gist of that one, my mainly. Which I was like, they didn't even really talk too too much about the tablets. It was more about like angels and demons and Kevin.

Berly: 21:55

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's not like the tablets are real, they just kind of talked about where their thought process was and coming up with them. Yeah. They didn't even mention the emerald tablet, which is the thing that we thought was the inspiration for the tablets. Hang on, let me see here. The emerald tablet. Yeah, the emerald quick, quick little Google AI summary here. The emerald tablet is a cryptic foundational text of alchemy, traditionally attributed to Hermes. It is a short, influential document that has been interpreted in many ways, with its most famous line being, as above, so below. So yeah, and it's like nobody really knows that it actually ever even existed, and nobody's ever seen it, and all this kind of stuff. And so that's what we did our lore on. And so I kept waiting for them to bring up the emerald tablet, and like, nope, never happened. They just said spirit of destiny like 10 times. Yeah.

LA: 22:55

We just can't win them all, you know. Yeah, you just drop some knowledge that didn't have anything to do with it, but whatever. It was interesting. Yeah. The next one is Angel Warrior, the story of Castiel.

Berly: 23:06

I thought this was an interesting featurette to have considering they tried to kill him off completely last season. Yeah. And then they brought him back, and now they're like, this is why he's so important. Well, yeah, let's explain. But they did also verbally say what I theorized whenever I said, you know, I understand why the writers decided to kill him off. How can the Winchesters have any obstacles that they need to overcome if they've got an all-powerful angel in their pocket?

LA: 23:36

Yeah.

Berly: 23:36

You know, so they they did blatantly say that, you know, it was it was becoming a problem because he's too powerful.

LA: 23:43

Yeah.

Berly: 23:44

How can you come up with any problems with it with him constantly around?

LA: 23:48

So I think one of them said he, yeah, he has too much power and connection to heaven, but they had him start, you know, more behaving like a human with emotions would and his journey. I think they said that he's got a cracked chassis. That and he's he's broken, and he kind of represents the brokenness and in the human nature. And that what was it about Dean that he sees himself as a protector of Dean, but also as a Dean's also like a mentor to him. And uh I mean, I had thought about that, but just not had it, you know, articulated that way, because I'm not that articulate.

Berly: 24:28

Right. Like I've I've tried to think about what their relationship is before because he straight up has said that he's the protector of the Winchesters before. However, you clearly see since his character introduction that he's constantly learning, observing Dean. Um, and so I thought that was yeah, that was articulated really well. Like he sees himself as both of these things.

LA: 24:50

As soon as he said that, I thought I kind of hadn't had the thought, like, ah, yeah. That's that's exactly it. Oh, I also liked how Misha they touched on Misha Misha, his choice.

Berly: 25:01

I'd like to touch on Misha. Oh, okay. Oh my other angel? When's he coming back? Oh where's my archangel? Oh, he comes back next season, I think. Really? Nine. Yeah, I think so.

LA: 25:14

Oh something to look forward to.

Berly: 25:16

Yay! Unless he shows up with another tablet. Jesus. Not the Jesus tablet. I'm just kidding. He can show up with a tablet. That's true, yeah.

LA: 25:32

That first episode where they introduce him, and he thought he really felt that he needed to have a deeper voice. And so since doing that now, he's had to kind of carry it through. I think what did he say? Yeah, there was one he, I think he said some days he has to go home and have hot lemon water and just have a sore throat after like so many scenes. And it's, I mean, good on him as an actor, just following through with it.

Berly: 25:58

Yeah, that commitment. Yeah, I think it was on Supernatural Then and Now that I heard somebody talking about how people don't realize how deeply he's talking. That one time a guy who was on sound was hearing a weird rattling and couldn't figure out what it was. It was Misha's chest. Oh my god. Yeah, the bass and it was like vibrating the mic, like where they had to go and fix it.

LA: 26:22

Wow.

Berly: 26:22

And then I was like, hmm. I liked when they talked a little bit about Castell and Crowley kind of being on the opposite side of the same coin there. That they're both kind of rebels. You know, Crowley Crowley isn't really happy in hell and kind of rebelling against what he should be doing in hell, and then Castell's kind of doing the same thing.

LA: 26:50

Yeah.

Berly: 26:51

Like their methodology isn't the same, obviously.

LA: 26:53

But still. And then Castell's kind of com conflict of yeah, he's a rebel, but he is conflicted about not doing his duties how he's supposed to, but plus protecting the boys, and then just that interference of the two sometimes. I I did like how when they were talking about Dean and uh Misha's relationship, or not Misha, I'm sorry, Dean and Castell's relationship, how they called them the odd couple. Yeah. I thought that was cute. And then when they were talking about how Misha plays the character, like he's like a the star man with his cadence. He plays the straight man. He's funny, but he's not in on a joke. He doesn't understand. And then I think you liked that they said he's data.

Berly: 27:33

Yeah, yeah, because I loved Data and Next Generation. Yeah. Um, and they were like, let's say it. Let's we're just gonna say it. He's our data. And I was like, ah.

LA: 27:42

I think it was Adam Glass, wasn't he? He was like, I'm gonna get real nerdy on you. Yeah. Right now. He did.

Berly: 27:47

And say he's data. I liked that Adam Glass had on a ghost facers t-shirt. I did too.

LA: 27:51

And then I was thinking, I want one. I'll have to see if I can't find one. Oh, and I did like how they touched on Naomi a little bit too. That not all angels, well, obviously we know they're not all good and goody because neither's Cast Dell, but she's really not broadened the idea of the angels in this world. And then I also liked how when they were talking about how Cass, when he chose to protect the tablet and take it from everybody, it was partly just because that was one of the last pieces of God he had left. Which I was like, oh my god, that's kind of sad.

Berly: 28:26

Yeah, like a last-itch effort to actually protect heaven and what God had created. Yeah. It was sad.

LA: 28:31

And I never thought about what a complex character he is, but he really is.

Berly: 28:34

Mm-hmm.

LA: 28:35

So but I that was a really these are the kind of uh like special features that I want to see. Stuff like this directly from scenes taken from the show and things like that, not necessarily the myth mythology and all that behind it, like that one. Yeah. Oh my god. It was just so much. I mean, they did a great job, but I just like behind the scenes stuff on set.

Berly: 29:01

Yeah, hearing more about the inspiration for why we wrote wrote it this way, why we took it this way, why we couldn't take it that way. Yeah, here were the obstacles we had to overcome, here was the thought process behind that. Yeah, I agree.

LA: 29:13

So these were really I really enjoyed these. And then we had the gag rule, but the best part was gents and face planting. Right.

Berly: 29:19

And they showed it like four times. Yeah. Jensen face planting. Also, like we this is the first time that I feel like they've had multiple clips of showing what a menace Jared Padalecki is on set.

LA: 29:33

Oh my god, yeah. I would probably get mad at him after a while. Like, stop it.

Berly: 29:38

Well, I mean, there was one point where Misha Collins was like, hang on, fuck you, or something like that.

LA: 29:45

What was it? Oh, you mean Kevin? Like, you don't even see Jared. You just he it's Kevin and Jensen. Well, it was Adam Rose. That too. No, but with Kevin doing it. Oh, did Kevin to the table when um Dean's talking to Ket uh Kevin? And you see him like just like look over where I guess Jared's sitting next to him and he's like, fuck you dick.

Berly: 30:05

Like, fucking stop. Yeah. Or like I liked the Adam Rose one the best, where it's Jensen's back and they're doing an over over-the-shoulder shot to Adam Rose, and Adam Rose is trying to say his line, and then all of a sudden you hear Jared Patalecki from somewhere off doing something go, Hey Adam, look. And then Adam just completely looks like that was your first mistake, Adam. It's a look, and then just dies laughing. And I'm like, what did he just do? Did he moon him? Like, what just happened? Who knows?

LA: 30:37

But yeah, he yeah. And I like that there most of them are off-camera when somebody's breaking character because of him.

Berly: 30:44

Because of him, yeah. And then we liked At the beginning, AJ. Yeah. The actor who played AJ. Uh Jared tried to throw him off and he like just picked it up and ran with it. And then whenever the bit part was kind of starting to die down, he just started his dialogue over again for them to run the scene. It was so good.

LA: 31:03

And Jared was like, Well, are you a fan of the show? He's like, or he's like, You watch the show and he said, Oh, religiously. I TV.

Berly: 31:10

I TVO it. And like didn't skip a beat, right? Like went right into it.

LA: 31:16

And uh Jensen like wasn't in on it. And then Jared Jared said something about, are we gonna talk about the TV TiVo? And then that's when he picks up the line. Like, he's like, okay, let's just start this over.

Berly: 31:26

You're gonna owe me a favor. You're the win. Oh, so you know about us? Yeah, you're the Winchesters. Yeah, that's what he and then Jared tries to do it again. He watches the show.

LA: 31:37

And what did Jensen say? What do you think about us changing Wednesdays?

Berly: 31:40

To Wednesdays, yeah. That was all. It was like the first one of the first things. No, I guess the first thing was Jensen face planning.

LA: 31:46

Yeah, yeah.

Berly: 31:47

But that was one of the first ones, and I got a kick out of that.

LA: 31:50

I loved that.

Berly: 31:51

It was pretty funny.

LA: 31:52

And then uh it was inappropriate, but Cass and Dean and the um what is that?

Berly: 31:57

Lucifer's tomb.

LA: 31:59

Yeah, and he's got his hand on his face, and Jensen's like, stop pulling my head towards your cross.

Berly: 32:05

Yeah. I thought that was the funniest. They had these long drown out things where they were doing the you're my baby daddy, I love you. Say I love you.

LA: 32:14

Say I love you.

Berly: 32:15

Cass like, I'm gonna put this down. No, I'm gonna hit you again. And Jensen's going, Oh, when he got hit. That was all funny. But I thought it was the funniest at the very beginning, whenever Jensen was like fighting against him. Yeah, oh my god.

LA: 32:30

I'm sure they had such a blast.

Berly: 32:32

It was cute, it was a cute little gag reel. Just the right length, and then I always appreciate whenever they show all the pictures from the crew uh there at the end. That's always fun to see, too.

LA: 32:44

So yeah, those were our special features. Well, not ours. They're their special features.

Berly: 32:49

So, what are your overall thoughts on season eight?

LA: 32:54

I will be curious to see where they're taking it with these tablets and what's next, I guess.

Berly: 32:59

Yeah, what are they gonna do about all these angels? All these angels running around. If they're all like Castell, like how are they all gonna find vessels? If it like has to be a special bloodline and all that other kind of stuff. So if there's some angels floating around out there who don't have vessels, like are windows just gonna randomly get be getting blown out in some places and the trials thing was pretty cool.

LA: 33:25

Yeah.

Berly: 33:26

Having them go through that. I wish they had done a little bit more with Naomi.

LA: 33:29

Oh, yeah?

Berly: 33:30

Yeah, like I would have liked to have found out a little bit more about what her motivations are, yeah, what she was trying to accomplish. It's like we just got a little bit of exposition from Metatron about that. I would have liked to have seen that a little bit more actually with Naomi.

LA: 33:46

Yeah, I could see that.

Berly: 33:47

It's like we were finally getting past the mystery of her character and now she's gone.

LA: 33:52

Yeah. The seasons are so long, it's hard to sometimes think back and be like, okay, which season did this?

Berly: 33:58

And this is Yeah, it was so much easier for us to do that when we were in the beginning and going two episodes a week, also. So we were hammering through these seasons much more quickly. We've had to spread them out, and they and now that we are at eight seasons in, they are starting to run together. Like what was in eight, what was in seven, what was in six is kind of blending together for me as well. Well, let's let's uh narrow our scope, right? Rather than looking at the season as an entire being and trying to comment on that. Let's look at the episodes. Okay. So what was one of your favorite episodes?

LA: 34:37

Well, I I'll go ahead and tell you my two favorite episodes. Oh, okay. Go ahead. Because they're both with Charlie.

Berly: 34:43

Oh, Charlie.

LA: 34:44

So it's LARP and the real girl and Pac-Man Thiever.

Berly: 34:47

I like Charlie.

LA: 34:48

Just because I I think she's a cute dynamic between the two brothers, and especially her and Dean. Um, I don't know, she's like a breath of fresh. I don't know. I like it.

Berly: 34:56

Yeah. Was there anything else you liked about those episodes other than just Charlie?

LA: 35:00

Well, of course, the the LARPing was awesome.

Berly: 35:02

Mm-hmm.

LA: 35:04

Uh her little montage was adorable. And then um when she's saying goodbye to Dean and tells him she loves him and all that. I mean, I just I I really like their relationship. It's cute.

Berly: 35:15

I agree. It was it was fun to have them in such a unique atmosphere for the LARPing episode. That was fun. So I agree with you on that one. And also Pac-Man Fever, I just feel like it was just it was just beautiful. It was just cinematically a beautiful episode. Robert Singer did really well with and Serge uh La Dessour. They did really well with just that episode just looked really good. I enjoyed that one a lot too.

LA: 35:41

And then my honorable mention is bitten.

Berly: 35:44

Oh yeah.

LA: 35:45

Just because after, like, I mean Especially after the special feature. I like that found footage stuff anyway, but especially after the yeah, especially after the special feature.

Berly: 35:53

Right.

LA: 35:54

Uh even more so.

Berly: 35:55

So I remember I remembered whenever that episode ended that you were like, I like that. Yeah. I like that. All right. What about yours? I have a list of five. Oh. Well, I didn't know which ones you were going to name off, and I didn't want to double dip us have to talk about them more than once, but I'll I'll start with a similar format here as you. Okay. I have both Blood Brother and Citizen Fang on here. Benny.

LA: 36:21

Oh, oh, I should have known that.

Berly: 36:23

Benny. Benny. Blood Brother was just super cute. Well, it wasn't super cute. It was really cool to see Dean and Benny come together because at this point, he had just been this mystery guy that woke up in his grave because Dean bled on him.

LA: 36:39

And it's like, what the Yeah, that was a little left-handed.

Berly: 36:42

Who is this guy? And I still need to know why was he not like resurrected naked in his grave? What? And so, yeah, just getting that more backstory of Purgatory, getting to see Dean and Benny together and seeing that they really were like brothers, like they really were close, and him coming and helping him out and getting more of Benny's backstory, and just I really enjoyed that episode. And I liked how that one looked as well.

LA: 37:10

Yeah.

Berly: 37:10

Uh, there was a lot of interesting angles in that, as well as lighting, like that one room where they had all the shadows and stuff. Um, it was just I I really enjoyed that episode. And then Citizen Fang. I know Martin pissed us off, but I also kind of love Martin still. He made me really mad, but I just loved that choice to bring back Martin.

LA: 37:31

Yeah, yeah.

Berly: 37:32

And this whole Benny thing and him getting over here and trying to go for him and all of that.

LA: 37:37

Well, and I really liked that he found his great what was it, great great granddaughter. I thought that was really sweet.

Berly: 37:42

That was a nice touch that he like went back to his roots and tried to find some family. If you know he can't be hanging out with Dean, then what else am I gonna do?

LA: 37:52

Well, and it's like uh real nice of the coven to fuck it up for him, you know.

Berly: 37:56

Right, but you know, that's one of those things. He was a big dude in a big ass coven, so it made sense. Yeah.

LA: 38:04

But yeah, I like those two. I like I knew you'd probably pick the penny episode, so I was like, I'll steer clares.

Berly: 38:10

I also had Pac-Man Fever on my list.

LA: 38:12

Oh, yeah, that was the one when I was looking at this, I saw I was like, that's the only one.

Berly: 38:16

Yeah, and then the other, the other two that I have on my list. Um, one of them you're not going to be surprised because it's the one that you made fun of me for. Because at the end of every paragraph, I was like, I loved it.

LA: 38:26

I know.

Berly: 38:27

I knew. I knew that was coming. Everybody hates Hitler. That episode was so fucking cute. I would have never thought that I would be like, oh my god, you remember that episode with the Nazis? It was so cute. Yeah. Because you know, fuck Nazis. But everybody hates Hitler. So cute, so cute. The golem, I cannot remember the actor's name, but and and Adam Rose. They just they nailed it.

LA: 38:52

You loved it.

Berly: 38:53

I loved it. And it was an Antland, of course. Of course. And then the last one I have on my list. Um, again, just adding some unique things that we haven't seen before. Huntery Hirochi.

LA: 39:07

Which one was this?

Berly: 39:08

This was the one with Mike Jones, the telepath who was getting dementia and was making the cartoon stuff.

LA: 39:17

Oh, that's right. Start happening.

Berly: 39:20

And there was the cat, the dumbass. I liked that one a lot. Yeah. I like made a little edit to um, is it nickelback? Where it's like they say that a hero, whenever he comes in and saves them and gets has his powers back. I like made myself cry doing that edit. Well, because I'm an adult.

LA: 39:44

I that's funny because I I I think I remember when we were watching that one. In my mind, I was thinking this will be one of my favorites at the end of the season. And I totally forgot about it.

Berly: 39:53

Oh, I loved it. I I went back through the list though. But yeah, I loved, I loved that episode. Was that wasn't that his character's name? Or am I it's Mike Farrell is the actor. Fred Jones. Fred Jones was the was the character name. Yeah, those those were the five I have on my list. So lots of standout episodes for sure. And my only again, my complaint, Naomi, and then my longtime running complaint was supernatural, is just I understand why they did so many standalone episodes, filler episodes, so to speak, in the Kripke era, why like more than 50% of the episodes were technically considered filler and the rest were like the mythology of the season. But I just feel like now that the mythology, since they've done the apocalypse, has gotten a little bit more complicated, I really wish they would pull back a little bit on the filler episodes and have a little bit more consistency with the mythology episodes. Because yet again, this season it feels like we get to like episode 15 and are going, there's still all this unanswered stuff now up in the air. And in like the last four episodes, they have to cram in everything.

LA: 41:01

Yeah.

Berly: 41:01

And that that seems to have become a pattern with the show. And it is what it is, like it's not it doesn't make it not enjoyable, but just me, my processing time, I would do better if it was paced out a little bit more.

LA: 41:15

Yeah, yeah.

Berly: 41:16

Rather than so compressed there in the end. But I enjoyed it. I liked the season. Okay, so now let's get to some of the stuff. The stuff. Now we're in this section of our show called the stuff. We are up to 72 on the blood sploogge count. We had 12 blood splooges in this season. Uh, Mr. Villy with the bank teller back in uh the Mrs. the Tiger Mom episode where they had to go to the auction and all that stuff. Oh yeah. Uh there were two blood splooges in Southern Comfort: the angry wife with the car, where she like Oh yeah, and the angry son with the shovel.

LA: 42:08

Oh my god, yeah.

Berly: 42:10

And then we had uh in episode seven, Crowley blew up the potential prophet. It exploded all over everybody. In episode eight, Hunter and Terry Hirochi, uh the heart that beat it, and then it exploded and it was so chunky.

LA: 42:28

Ugh, yeah.

Berly: 42:29

In LARP and the real girl, we got two, the horse pulling off the limbs, the invisible horse.

LA: 42:37

Oh yeah.

Berly: 42:38

Yeah. And then in the police station, whenever that guy vomited blood all over the mirror. In episode 14, we had the hellhound attack. I don't think that's the one where he killed anybody, or where he killed the bloodhound. We are we aren't there because it was when the hellhound attacked somebody because we decided that Sam's wasn't a sploogge, it was just like a gush. Yeah. In episode 15, we got two blood splooges whenever James Marilou Frampton was squeezing necks and somehow making them explode on his face. He he made that happen twice. In episode 18, Victor, whenever he like took himself out there at the end, we had a little blood splooge. In episode 20, uh, Pac-Man Fever with the belly, the bloated belly poke. Oh yeah. And then in episode 20. Oh yeah. Okay. We should just record those separately for sound effects for video games or something. And then last but not least, our 72nd blood sploogge of the supernatural series in episode 22, when Tommy's Head Exploded. We're getting up there.

LA: 43:57

Yeah.

Berly: 43:57

That's crazy. We're gonna hit 100 soon. And then our next little list, running list that we're keeping here are ideas for our American Horror Stories-inspired revival. Here's what LA and I have collected throughout the season. Uh, we want to see an episode on Mrs. Trans' backstory. We want to see an episode on that My and God love story that we didn't get to really see much of. Uh, we want to see what happens to Kate the werewolf after she leaves her apartment. We want to see Benny's backstory with Andrea and their nest. We want to see Fred Jones, the cartoon guy. We want to see his backstory, maybe see him do a hunt with John Winchester. 45. We're getting up there. We have over 50 ideas. Uh, we want to see the fairy tribunal. Yep, yep. When that villain got taken away by the fairy, she was like, he has to go to the fairy tribunal. We were like, can we see that, please? I want to see that. Uh, we want to see Henry and Josie go through their men of letters training. Like, we know when they showed up for that meeting, it was their initiation. They'd been through their training, they've done all their stuff. We want to see them do that. Uh, Aaron and his golem. I want I want multiple episodes on Aaron and his golem. Uh, we decided, Portia and James, that we actually wanted to see their love story, her not being a dog and them fall in love and actually have chemistry together and being together so that we could root for them because we weren't in their episode. Um, Artemis, we want to see her backstory. We really enjoyed that character. Ajay, the Reaper, maybe see him take Bobby to hell or something. See more from Ajay. And then last but not least, we said we enjoyed the kind of where are they now thing with the clip show, and that it would be cool to see more people who they saved from previous episodes come back. And that's what we have on that. Very nice. We did it.

LA: 46:00

Yay!

Berly: 46:01

We are done with season eight. Uh, we are not having another bonus episode. We we didn't do a mid-season bonus episode because we wanted to catch up with season eight. We had kind of been lagging behind with our weekly episode releases there earlier in the season. So we prioritized catching up on our season eight episodes. Uh, we already released our end-of-season bonus with Mr. Ben Edland. So if you haven't listened to that interview, go check that out. It's already out. And coming up, we have our supernatural music extravaganza, which is a 20th anniversary celebration of the TV series where we're focusing on music. And it was something that we thought was going to be like three, maybe four episodes, and it's more like 10 now. So yeah, we did that to ourselves. Uh, but it's with reason, right? As we were starting to talk about, okay, who in the cast has music, does music, has a musical background, or does music now? Who are from the crew, who um the composers actually talking to people who were involved in music on the series, and who are people who've written songs inspired by the series. It was just like the list just kept getting longer and longer and longer. Like it literally got to a point where we had to be like, oh my God, we have to stop. We cannot keep interviewing people. We have to start editing these episodes at some point. Um, but that's coming out on Tuesday, November 11th. So bear with us through that. We are expecting that to last through the end of the year. So we will be back in January with season nine of Denim Wrapped Nightmares. But please stick with us through the music extravaganza. I think you guys are really going to enjoy it. It should have some really interesting stuff and looking at the series through a different lens. To close it out, as we do with every finale, we're saying goodbye to those recurring characters who we don't expect to see next season. So, first off, we're saying goodbye to Channing, Kevin's girlfriend, played by Lisa Neptuno.

LA: 48:12

Mrs. Tran, Linda Tran, played by Kara Lideo in season seven, and Lauren Tom in season eight.

Berly: 48:22

Samandriel played by Tyler Johnston. Martin Creaser, played by John Grease, Tommy Collins, played by Graham Wardle.

LA: 48:34

Jenny Klein, played by Cindy Busby.

Berly: 48:37

Sarah Blake, played by Taylor Cole.

LA: 48:40

Benny, played by Ty Olson. You should have gotten that one.

Berly: 48:46

Josie Sands, not Abaddon, Abaddon smoked out to live another day, but Josie Sands, played by Elena Huffman.

LA: 48:56

Naomi, played by Amanda Tapping.

Berly: 48:59

And last but certainly not least, Meg Master's Demon. Because Meg Masters has already gone away, but Meg Masters Demon played by Rachel Minor. Oh, cheers. Cheers. Thank you for listening to Denim Wrapped Nightmares.

LA: 49:19

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