Sacrifice (8x23)

Berly and LA dive into the emotional rollercoaster that is Supernatural's Season 8 finale, and spoiler alert: there were tears. Like, a LOT of tears.

The episode kicks off with Crowley crashing Sheriff Jody Mills' blind date in the worst possible way (choking her out, not the fun kind), leading to Dean making a deal he swore he wouldn't make. Sam continues the demon-curing trials while injecting Crowley with purified blood, which leads to Mark Sheppard delivering a heartbreaking performance about just wanting to be loved. Meanwhile, Castiel gets manipulated by Metatron in what turns out to be a scheme to cast all angels out of heaven—not exactly the "closing the gates" plan they signed up for.

The hosts are especially emotional about the final church scene between Sam and Dean, where Sam confesses he feels like he constantly lets Dean down, and Dean finally tells him to stop the trials. Cue the waterworks. Also featuring: Abaddon's fiery return (RIP that nice suit), Kevin stress-drinking whiskey in the bunker, and a whole lot of screaming at the TV about whether Jody survived.

Fair warning: bring tissues and prepare for your heart to shatter into a million pieces. Multiple times.

Sources:

• https://supernatural.fandom.com/wiki/Sacrifice
• https://www.buzzsprout.com/2076426/episodes/13142091

Transcript

Berly: 0:01

Welcome to Dinner Wrapped Nightmares, Tipsy Exchange podcast, where we explore the supernatural series episode by episode.

LA: 0:10

Over drinks, we'll discuss the lore, the gore, and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.

Berly: 0:17

I'm Burley, and I'm a new fan of the series.

LA: 0:20

I'm Ellie, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get tipsy.

Berly: 0:28

Oh my god. Okay. Hello, LA. Hey, Burley. You gonna make it? No, I'm sure, I'm certain I'll I'll cry again at the end, but we'll we'll get pushed through. Okay.

LA: 0:47

Our last episode was titled Clip Show, and Sam and Dean reunited with Castiel, and they were digging through the men of letters files and stumbled upon an undiscovered film which could have been, or which they felt could be the key to the third trial. Metatron enlists cast to mull over problems at home. Meanwhile, Crowley was digging into Salmon Dean's past.

Berly: 1:12

Today's episode is titled Sacrifice. Shut up.

LA: 1:18

And that didn't say anything.

Berly: 1:20

It's the 23rd episode and the season finale of season eight. It originally aired on May 15th, 2013. We open up with Sheriff Jody Mills, and she looks fabulous. She does. She looked all kinds of fancy. And she was there for a blind date with someone named Roderick. Well, the waitress comes over, brings Jodi a nice little cosmopolitan. And Jodie's like, wait, I didn't order this. And then all of a sudden Crawley appears.

LA: 1:50

He's Roderick.

Berly: 1:51

Yeah, she was like, Roderick, oh my god. And he's like, Your picture did not do you justice. So we see that like there's a little bit of a time lapse there, like a transition, fade, merge kind of shot thing. So some time has passed, and Jody is just kind of pointing out, like, okay, you're fancy schmancy. I'm small town girl. You know, we don't have anything in common. Where could this go? And he says, We do have bedroom, right? I know. Like that type of choking was not what Jody had in mind, Crowley. How dare you? How dare you? And also, did she survive? I mean, I'm hoping so. Nobody fucking said anything. Like, it's like, what the hell? Like, I was still on the bathroom floor screaming at the television. Yes. Like they never said anything about it. We never saw her vertical again. Like, I'm going to be livid if they killed her off. And like you literally just said in the last episode.

LA: 2:46

Or is it just-I don't know.

Berly: 2:48

Yeah, I don't know. Like when we last saw her, she was still gasping for air. She wasn't dead. Yeah. But we didn't see her like get up and walk out of there either.

LA: 2:58

And no one's assuming since they made the call to Crowley while he was still there, maybe he called it off.

Berly: 3:03

Right. But I was expecting some sort of exposition whenever they were met with Kevin for them to be like, you know, thank goodness we got to Jody in time or something. But nothing. They said nothing.

LA: 3:13

I don't know.

Berly: 3:13

TBD. Oh my god. But anyway, so Crowley says, I'm so snotty. I'm sorry, y'all. Crowley says that they do have something in common, loss. And so we get the like background montage where it shows her in her episode. It was it, I know it had the word dead in it, where where her she lost her son and her husband in that episode. And so she was like, Yeah, like, how'd you know?

LA: 3:38

That would be creeped up that he knew that. I'd be like, no, really, how do you know?

Berly: 3:41

Right. That would be weird. But they end up chatting more, having more drinks. Good little date. Yeah. And then Jody excuses herself to go to the restroom. She's in there being like, Oh my god, what are you doing? You're fucking crazy. Like a penny's hot. Oh my god, he's so hot though. And then she finds the hex bag in her purse while he starts saying the incantation at the table. Like he set up his little thing on the table. Like he rolled out some parchment and set out his little candle and put his little picture with the painting on it. Um, it looked a lot like stuff from the Dr. Phil, showed up Dr. Phil thing, and started going into that. And then when his phone rang, it was Anaconda. I serve mixed a lot.

LA: 4:26

Uh-huh.

Berly: 4:27

I was just like, what is happening? And so Jody's in the in the bathroom touching up her makeup and getting herself all excited about like she's definitely going home with him on their first date, is what I'm thinking she's thinking. She's like, Oh yeah, this is on. If nothing else, yeah, this is crazy. I don't think there's any longevity here, but I'm gonna fuck that man is what I'm thinking. Jody's doing in the bathroom. Dean is telling him, You've got it, you've got the deal. Okay. So we cut from the end of last episode where Dean is like, no, no deal. We're gonna kick it in the ass. It'll be fine. And then we cut to Dean being like, Deal, you got a deal. You got a deal. So I kind of was like, what happened? What happened between? Like, did they tell him that Joe that he was going for Jody next? And that was the breaking point for them. You know, what happened here? But we never really find out. Crowley is, of course, taunting them and being like, Are you sure? And he's got his fingers over the candle to to stop the spell from going on. And poor Jody in the bathroom, like I said, she's choking on her own blood. And then Crowley says, I need to hear two words. I surrender. And it just shows Dean sitting there fuming, pissed off, and then it cuts to supernatural. And then when we come back, we're at a completely different scene. So again, we don't know that. I mean, I assume he said I surrender because we know that he meets up with Crowley, but I'm asking, like, did he say it in time? Like Jody survived. We're gonna we're gonna assume she did, because that's what I needed. You know, we see Kevin is digging up where he hid the other half of the demon tablet, because that's part of the deal. And he buried it under a giant billboard with like this Satan and devil and hell and all this stuff. And they were like, Really, Kevin? He's like, What? It was out of my mind, it's going crazy. Leave me alone. And you know what, guys? No one found it. Okay, so shut up. He's doing fine. And finally, finally, Sam and Dean give him the key and tell him where the bunker is. And then they're all like, no keggers, no parties. And Kevin goes, I don't have any friends. I was like, Oh, yeah.

LA: 6:32

You guys have just ruined my life.

Berly: 6:34

Yeah, you ruined my life. What did you think I was gonna do? Then I'm sitting here being like, Y'all let all these other people in, but I guess because they gave him the key. Like they didn't just tell him where it was, they gave him the key to the bunker that they're making a bigger deal out of it.

LA: 6:46

Move in.

Berly: 6:47

Oh, not just visit. And he tells them, he assures them that he thinks they're doing the right thing by stopping the trials and or that's the assumption, right? The assumption is that they're stopping the trials and giving the tablet to Crowley and that they've given in, right? But that's not what the plan is. It gets it gets revealed slowly through the episode. Castile and Metatron are still hanging out, trying to figure out what they're gonna do next. Cass is asking, and what's he like? What was God like? You know? And I don't even remember what Metatron said. So I guess he wasn't memorable. I mean, we find out later. He was apparently a really memorable dude and made Metatron feel super fucking special. Uh, so he was dealing with some serious abandonment daddy issues whenever God up and left, and the archangels did not make him feel at home anymore. But anyway, they are sitting outside on a bench watching a barkeep, the bar owner, sweep in the steps. And it's also important that there's the guy standing out there with the sign. I always forget to talk about these little spies that they let us see are everywhere. So this is obviously a spy for heaven. Uh, the episode where they went to purgatory to get to hell, there was a demon spy in the alley there. So they always have these little spies just kind of everywhere, but they do give us a very clear shot of heaven's spy over here on the side. Metatron lets Cass know that the next trial, they need to get Cupid's bow. So no murders this time. Yes. You know, things are looking. Yeah. They go into the bar.

LA: 8:26

Like that versus what Sam has had to do. Like, come on. For Sam.

Berly: 8:33

No murdering this time. So they they go into a bar to keep a better eye on the barkeep because again, Metatron is still connected somehow. He said he had been listening in to Angel Radio, particularly the Cupid frequency, and he knew that this dude was the next dude on the list. So they're they're keeping an eye on him. After Castiel says some very inappropriate things to the barkeep.

LA: 8:58

I thought that was I loved it.

Berly: 9:00

He's like going through the ads, the dating ads, trying to help hook hook up the bartender sooner rather than later. And it's like, you know, that's not how it works. You know that it's a special person, not just anybody, but whatever. He's just trying to be helpful. Okay. Cassial is desperate for a win at this point. He was trying to figure out his kicks so he could help him better choose from the personality. Like, you end up role-playing? Like, what is it? What is it, buddy? I love how he was like, dude, it's like 10 a.m. on a Tuesday. Not now. Too too early. But Metatron orders two beers and the guy's just like on it. Well, Naomi and her like minions show up and they are livid. And the bartender tries to help out Cass and Metatron, but they take him down, knock his ass out. And Metatron finally looks at Castell and is like, stop, just stop, let them take me because they were gonna try and kill Castell. So Metatron kind of saved Cass's ass there and went with all the angels.

LA: 10:01

I like that Ion Eon tattled on him so they knew where to find him. Is that what happened? Yeah, remember he was uh at Naomi's desk telling her, and he's like, I think he's with Metatron.

Berly: 10:13

Oh yeah, he had been spotted, and we've seen they were like, We've seen him with him. Yeah, that's it. What? And she was not happy. No, she was terrified whenever we see her last alive. I thought her arc was gonna be bigger. Like, damn. Sorry, girl. She's just she was just there to reveal the twist. I guess so. Well, talking about the agreement that we turned out, I I can't talk. I'm still upset, okay?

LA: 10:44

We understand. We know. Well, that's watched will understand.

Berly: 10:48

We uh we were thinking the Sam and Dean are gonna go give over the tablet and give up. So they go meet Bobby, or not Bobby, is Crowley. It was Crowley, it was Crowley, but they're in Bobby's old junkyard. Like, did you see them go and like look at the old car and everything? So I was just like, oh Crowley picked that spot just to be an asshole. For sure. 100%. And so Crowley looks pleased as fucking punch. He is so happy because you know he's he's one. What is it? The cat, the cat, he's the cat that got the cream. Oh, for sure. Can Crowley get your cream, LA?

LA: 11:23

Whoa.

Berly: 11:26

Is that too far? Did I go too far? They like show they each show that they have what they've come for because Dean did throw in that last clause. Like, you have to give us the angel tablet if we're giving you the demon tablet. Like, no one should have both. That's not fair.

LA: 11:40

Yeah.

Berly: 11:41

And Crowley agreed, but I'm sure he had some sort of plot in place to get it back. Lord knows. They said, Where's the contract? And he rolls out. How many feet do you think that was? I want to say that was like 10 feet. I was gonna say 10, yeah. Yeah. Oh, it was so funny. And Dean, like, yeah, sure. Sure, there's no hidden agendas or something in there. Like, we're not signing this until we read the fine print. Dean tries to sign it first, and Crowley was smart. He was like, uh-uh-uh. No, Moose is completing the trials. He's who has to sign the contract that he's gonna stop. So they're there for a little bit. And what I didn't understand though was why reading it that Dean moved closer to Crowley to read it rather than further back. That's what I it was it was he reading like up it, I'm guessing.

LA: 12:30

Like it was written in a way that was at the end of the room. Or was he just holding the bottom?

Berly: 12:33

Was he just holding the bottom and was up there at Crowley, like pretending like maybe he was asking about something? I don't know.

LA: 12:38

I assumed it was like backwards where he started, where it was way out near him, and then that's what I that's what I thought.

Berly: 12:45

But whenever he was standing there in front of Crowley, it was like he still had the end. He still had like the bottom part. Yeah, like it was still like it was still like hanging between them. And so I was like, huh.

LA: 12:56

He just wanted to get it, make him uncomfortable, get into his personal space.

Berly: 13:00

And Crowley didn't care because he's he's clearly a Dean girl. Actually, I don't know. He might be a Sam girl after two. I'm just gonna say he's always gonna be a little bit more than a little bit of a Sam girl. Well, anyway, Dean gets right up in there. Well, also for what he's about to do, maybe that's why. Well, clear, yeah, that's why Dean is doing it. I'm just saying, why didn't Crowley be like, what the fuck? Why are you moving up closer to me? Like, how did how did Dean nonchalantly make his way up there to him? Right? That's what I'm saying. I wanted to see that part. Like they cut away and they're like 10, 15 feet apart from each other, and when they cut back, they're like right there face to face. So I'm like, how did Dean nonchalantly just like make his way up there with the contract? Without Crowley being like, what the fuck? Why are you what what are you doing? Anyway, they've reviewed the contract, and Dean has demonic handcuffs that he slaps on Crowley's wrist. And Crowley is like, oh what? Like, you think I can't just like and nothing happens. And Dean's like, ha ha ha ha ha. We got you, fucker. And guess what? We're not stopping. And you, sir, are the third trial. I kept kept thinking, I mean, how what?

LA: 14:15

I don't want to see, I kind of don't want to see a reformed Crowley. I don't I don't want him to be healed.

Berly: 14:22

You're like, I like him just the way he is. Yeah. It'd be weird. He made me cry. Well, we'll get there. They both did. Him and Samuel.

LA: 14:33

I feel like Dean made me tear up. Oh my god, they all did.

Berly: 14:36

It was like every time I thought I was about to get my shit together, somebody else made me cry. Well, anyway, they got Crowley and they need to go find sacred ground. So they're just like, you know what would be perfect. You remember that church from the November rain music video where Slash came walking out and did his guitar solo? Sam Sam was like, Yes, yes, that is perfect. That is perfect. That is where we need to go. So they go to that church. And it's not as pristine white as it used to be, you know, but it's been like 20, 30 years at this point. So it's okay. It's still sacred, is my point. They are setting up the church with the devil's trap and getting it all perfect. They have Crowley with all his demonic proof chains. They put a collar on him. They had him in a collar. Kind of liked it. I bet you did. The collar. And then he was on the chair. And so they get him set up in there with the devil's trap and all that. And Sam is praying. And Sam's like asking, you know what? I haven't done this in a while. Like, what do I do for confession? And Dean was just like, Oh, I don't know. Like, just some recommendations, like you fucked a demon, and then you let Lucifer out of his cage, and then you didn't look for me in purgatory for a year. Still holding on to that, right? And so Sam's just like, okay, fuck you. And like walks off and goes to go inside and kind of say a prayer, say a little bit of his prayer off to the side. So we don't actually get to hear what Sam says.

LA: 16:02

Well, he goes, he gets into the little confession booth, even though there's nobody there to confess to.

Berly: 16:07

Right, but we didn't we didn't get to hear him though, right?

LA: 16:10

Right, right. And I just I was I was surprised that that he went like that's where they went.

Berly: 16:15

Well, Slash was busy. Because isn't that only Slash was not available, LA? Is he a priest?

LA: 16:22

Why not? Sure. Of that church he is. Um no, because isn't it just Catholicism where they confess like that? I believe so. Yeah, I was just surprised that that's you know.

Berly: 16:36

Anyway. Maybe it wasn't as big of a step, as as necessary of a step as he was like, no, I'm gonna make this real official.

LA: 16:44

There's no priest on the other side, right? But I'm gonna get in the box. Like I'm gonna do it.

Berly: 16:48

Father Thompson never got to do his control study, right? Where he did the same ritual but didn't confess beforehand to see if it still had the same effect. Father Thomas, he didn't, Thompson, he didn't get to do that control study because Abaddon came and rocked his world. So you know, yeah, she rocks a lot of these guys' worlds. Abaddon showed up and was like, You're not cleaning my taint. No, she doesn't want to clean one. She does not want to clean taint. She is happy with it as it is. So Castie L pops in and is just like, oh my god, Dean, they took Metatron. I need your help.

LA: 17:23

Okay, why did he need his help exactly? Because all they do is go and sit at a bar and watch people. He didn't want to be alone. Do you like going to a bar by yourself? Okay, but I was uh I when I was thinking about asking you this, I was like, I was thinking, uh, did he just want company? He just didn't want to go to the bar by himself. I mean, I get it, but I mean they were kind of in an important situation to take him out of.

Berly: 17:45

No, Cass needed help. He doesn't have good people skills and he needed assistance. He didn't even talk to anybody. He was just an observer. Well, while he's telling Dean, like, I need your help. Come help me, buddy. Help me finish. We're we're gonna close the gates of heaven too. Like, we're gonna close it all, we're gonna shut it all down so that the angels can't come here either. Dean says just what you said. Like, I'm kind of fucking in the middle of something here, buddy. Yeah, I'm not leaving Sam by himself. And then he said something, I didn't write it down, but he said something along the lines of like Sam's a fucking mess. He needs help. If anybody needs supervision and needs and needs backup right now, it's Sam, right? Yeah, remember Cass. He's damaged. You keep talking about how Sam's more damaged than you, so yeah, he's clearly who needs more help. Well, of course, Sam's. Cass is like, don't worry about that. He's real damaged. But right now, I need you. I need you to come sit next to me at a bar. But Sam comes out and hears all this, and it's just like, fuck it, are you fucking kidding me? Like, yet again. And I can't help but like feel for him because it's like behind Sam's back, Dean talks about how Sam's a hero, Sam is phenomenal, Sam's accomplished things that he didn't think were possible, but then in front of Sam, he's always getting talked about like he's incompetent.

LA: 19:04

Well, and throwing all that shit he's done in his face yet again, yeah.

Berly: 19:08

Yeah. So, oh my god, I'm gonna cry again. So Sam tells him, Oh, Sam tells him, like, fuck off, go. I got this. Nothing big is gonna happen for another eight hours, anyways. Like, I'm just gonna be injecting Crowley with blood. We've got him locked down, you know. Even if the devil's trap breaks, he's in all those other demonic things. Like, it's fine, go. And Dean's just like, all right, you don't gotta tell me twice. I'm going to the bar with my buddy. I'm actually surprised he went. Same. Yeah. Same. But I guess he did kind of think, you know, they watched both of these videos, and not a lot happens in those first hours, other than the demons just like growling and saying awful things. It didn't get scary, crazy, until the hand cut and the cover in their mouths part. Yeah. And at this point, he's thinking that all's gonna be good whenever they finish. Like he they aren't thinking, or I guess I should say, they aren't choosing to believe that this is going to kill Sam at this point in time. Yeah. Dean and Cass hop into the bunker because you know they've got the angel tablet now. They stole that shit from Crowley. And they're giving it to Kevin and trying to be like, okay, like, can you help us here? Like, Metatron's not here to help anymore. Can you find where the trials are and help us figure out what we're supposed to do next? Like, we know about this Cupid's Bow thing, but what do we do after that? And Kevin is just like, y'all fucking kidding me? It took me how long to decipher half of the demon tablet? And you think I'm gonna be able to get through this fucking thing that I've never seen in my life in what, six hours, you said? I don't think so. And I'll have he like he walked over and poured himself a glass of whiskey. I was like, damn, Kevin. Okay. Kevin has grown up and he has no more fucks to give. He really doesn't, but unfortunately, neither does Cass. And like I said, Cass really needs a win right now. He needs it so desperately. So Cass assaults Kevin and it's just like, no, you're gonna do this. Do you understand your task? You're going to do this. Okay. And they they piece out at the church. We see Sam injecting Crowley with his second dose, and Crowley bites the shit out of Sam's arm. Yeah. He must have sucked the fuck out of it too, because he got a lot of blood. When he was spitting it out, I thought it was gonna be like a little chunk of flesh. When Sam pulled his arm away, did you see that? It was gnarly. And I left Sam. He was like biting Crowley, really? Like he was so disappointed in him. But yeah, Crowley spits it into his hand, like LA said, and it's a nice little pool. Like he, like I said, he must have sucked, penetrated that skin and sucked with all his might to get that going. So Crowley has some secret talents, apparently, because like a fucking hoover. He got a good amount of blood there. And he makes a little mobile call, makes a little cell phone call. We've never seen it happen without some sort of cauldron or bowl or something involved. He just did it from the palm of his hand where he was just like, Hey, I got fucking kidnapped. I don't know who can hear me right now, but like I need help. I can't get out of this by myself. I'm fucked. So whoever's out there, whoever can hear me, someone please come help me. He's on the hotline. He's on the intercom because he's just like, Whoever hears this, do you remember how cool whenever it was like back in the day and you went to a house and they had an intercom? It's like, oh wow, they oh yeah, they rich rich, you know. I wonder, do those still exist? I haven't been in a house that's had an intercom in a very long time.

LA: 22:47

I would think so. Like a big, like a mansion, you know, that a staff.

Berly: 22:52

Yeah, you would think they have something going on.

LA: 22:54

Or do they just text each other?

Berly: 22:55

That's what I was about to say. Like, do they do that, or is it just because we have this now? You can just call somebody or just text somebody instead. I've seen it. I hope they still exist.

LA: 23:06

I've seen it where it like everything's on a tablet now, and they can so I bet it's like they can you know how like on the remote you can say what you need now?

Berly: 23:14

We need intercoms back. Something like that. Like technology's great, don't get me wrong, but like there was other stuff that I just I wanted. It was kind of cool. It was cool. We we need we need intercoms back. Yeah. Why not? Well, at the bar, Cass and Dean are having a bevy and just staring at this bartender, trying to figure out like what do we do? We just sit here and wait, we just hang out. Well, then the delivery person, like the bar keg delivery person or whatever comes in. Oh, Cass did say something about how like he thought he saw a beautiful woman earlier, but now he doesn't think it was a woman. So I guess there was a fabulous drag queen that popped into the bar or something. Oh, I missed that. But the woman comes in and is talking to them, and Dean's just like, Oh, here we go. Here we go. This is just like the beginning of every porn I've ever seen. Here we go. And she puts her hand on the bartender, and then Rob, the gentleman who's been sitting there, who apparently is a regular at the bar, and she tells them both to have a really great evening and she leaves. And something's on the TV. I didn't catch what it was. Did you?

LA: 24:18

I didn't either. When they're what what did they both say? Oh, that's sweet.

Berly: 24:21

That's fucking sweet, yeah.

LA: 24:22

Yeah.

Berly: 24:23

So whatever it was, it was fucking sweet. And that was enough for them just to be like, Oh my god, we have this one thing in common. I love you. We should go fuck. They were very cute though. Yeah, it was kind of adorable. I thought they were kind of cutie patootie there. That was sweet. Cassial and Dean are like, All right, that's our chick. Let's go out there and talk to her. And Cassiel is just like, okay, so I don't have to kill her, but maybe I will. Whenever they get out there, he like pulls out his angel blade and is like, give me your bow.

LA: 24:50

Yeah.

Berly: 24:51

And Dean is like, Whoa, calm down, Stabby. Let's try having a conversation here first. And they end up explaining to her what they're trying to do. And she's just like, Yeah, it's fucked up there. So maybe we do need to close those gates until we can get our shit together because it's pretty bad. So I'm I'm gonna agree. I'm gonna help you guys. And she gives him their bow, which it appeared like kind of a tattoo in her palm. Yeah. And Cass still held up his angel blade. We didn't that's what okay, that's what I was like gonna ask.

LA: 25:25

Yeah.

Berly: 25:25

Because they didn't show it, but I'm like, I guess they had to cut cut it out of her palm.

LA: 25:30

I assumed.

Berly: 25:31

So hopefully, even though she gave up her bow, like she'll still be an angel and be able to heal that really quickly. Cause yeah, damn girl. She just can't make the the love happen now. Back at Slash's church, the ground starts vibrating. I mean, it was real dramatic. Oh, it was shit was going crazy, and the ground started to split, like the floorboards and stuff started to split. Sam doesn't know what the fuck is going on. The devil's trap that's holding Crowley does split, but again, he can't do shit. He's still stuck to that chair, and the doors fly open, and that that backlighting where it's it's still dark outside, like it's night outside. But that backlighting with her standing in the doorway was fucking perfection.

LA: 26:15

Yeah, I liked it. She looked so clean.

Berly: 26:21

Yeah, kicked in that door. She's fixed up her makeup, she's still rocking that same outfit and not even trying to hide that her head is stitched back onto her body. Fuck it. But she cleaned up that makeup though. She made sure that smeared lipstick and everything was clean, tended to. So she comes in. Sam gets fucking tossed out of the church like nothing whenever he tries to go and attack her. I think he shot the gun and it like bounced off of Crowley's collar.

LA: 26:52

Yeah.

Berly: 26:53

Like, ding, like bounced off the collar. And Crowley at first is like, yay, like she's here to save me. And it's like, no. She's here to usurp you. Like, she's infuriated that a crossroads demon is somehow all of a sudden king of hell. She's like, what the fuck? Like of all the things that have changed between when I jumped through a fucking closet in what was it, 1950 something? I think so. Yeah.

LA: 27:23

No, 40s or 50s, yeah.

Berly: 27:24

It had to be 50s because she said she killed that uh Thompson priest and he got killed in 58. So it had to be 50, 15, maybe 58, 59. Maybe it was the last thing she did before mana letters. But she was like, of all the things that have changed, that's the thing that fucking blew my mind the most. You are king of hell. How the fuck did that happen? It's another abomination. Yeah. Right? Right. And Crowley's trying to like talk to her and get her to be on his side, but she's like kicking the gun away, doesn't even stand up his chair. But Sam shows up out of. Did she knock him over? Oh, was she who knocked him over? Oh, I think you're right. I think you're right. Yeah, I was thinking going to town on it. I was thinking the earthquake thing did. She like kicked him in the face, knocked his ass out. Like she was not playing around. Yeah. She was take working out some aggression on Mr. Crowley. But Sam gets back in there and he got some of the holy oil out of the trunk, splashed it on her. Like I thought it was going to be holy holy water at first, but she just I totally did too, yeah. Right? But she didn't react to it like they normally do with holy water and there was no burning or anything. And then he lit the book of matches, and I was like, oh fuck.

LA: 28:34

Do you like how he was like, nice suit?

Berly: 28:37

Right? Yeah. So Abaddon goes up in flames, but she smoked out. Yeah. So Abaddon lives to see another day. But does that mean she's going to be played by someone other than Elena Huffman? I guess so. That makes me sad. I like her. That's the last we see of Abaddon, but they very clearly showed her smoke out. So I think she's going to be back next season.

LA: 29:00

Uh I was so scared for a second when it started going towards Sam.

Berly: 29:03

Oh my God, same. Same.

LA: 29:05

I was like, whoa.

Berly: 29:06

But then it just kind of brushed past him. I was like, thank God. Right. Maybe because of where he is, like with the trials and that light that's getting stronger and stronger in him. Yeah. Like it's it's getting stronger and stronger as he's doing more and more of the stuff. So maybe it looked like it kind of almost like bounced off of him. Exactly. Yeah. She went toward him. I think you're right. Yeah. Like it seemed like she went toward him. So, but maybe, maybe she couldn't possess him because of the trial stuff. And he has his anti-possession tattoo on him, too. So maybe that kept her from getting him. We haven't seen that tattoo in a while. Oh yeah. I'd like a reminder. I want I feel like it's been oh wait, no, that's a lie. We saw it this season when he was laying in bed with Amelia.

LA: 29:47

Oh. Yeah.

Berly: 29:48

Mm-hmm. Because we saw he's hairy now.

LA: 29:51

Mm-hmm.

Berly: 29:52

It's a mast. Mm-hmm. This is the daddy season. This is a season they're like we ground. In heaven, Naomi has Metatron, and he explains that like I was picked, I was selected. Do you guys know what it feels like to be chosen by God? And then when he left us, he fucking left us paradise and you all fucked it up. And I mean, he said he was saying they chased him away. So I was like, what? Jealous. I needed more of that story. Yeah, maybe. Maybe they they were jealous of him, or maybe he tried to be like, I should be in charge because I was the scribe, I was the word of God. There was definitely some bitterness on Metatron's part for sure. So I'm thinking maybe that's what happened. Maybe he thought they all should have listened to him because he was hand chosen by God to be his scribe and all that stuff. That makes more sense to me. And then Naomi picks up like her dentist drill and like menacingly leans over and is like, so she's she's digging in because she's been asking Metatron what the fuck he's doing and why.

LA: 30:59

Not how I thought that they would be going to dig through his brain. Right? Well, I mean, I thought it was gonna be like, you know, like the special effects, like the hangout.

Berly: 31:08

Oh, just psychically?

LA: 31:09

I don't know.

Berly: 31:10

Well, we saw her use that dentist drill on Castell a lot, but that's when she was like brainwashing and stuff. So, but yeah, that's her magic dentist drill. So back in the church, Crowley is rambling and being like, Oh my god, like we beat her, we did it. Sam's like, what the fuck are you talking about? And he does sit Crowley back up, right? So that was kind of him. And Crowley's like, yeah, like we work together, like we're we're foxhole brothers. We did it in the trenches, yeah. That's what it was. Foxhole is Annie. Crowley and Sam did not have a foxhole. Uh, but yeah, we were in the trenches, and then he was like, You've never watched HBO, Band of Brothers, the Pacific? Like, that means nothing to you.

LA: 31:53

When he started referencing girls and said that he was his Marnie, I died.

Berly: 31:59

I was like, Carly's really reaching here, and he is just rambling, trying with all his might, because talking is literally the only thing he can do in this chair to get Sam to stop. He's like, please stop, stop, stop, stop. So so he's starting to have feelings, right? That's the effect of the blood. Sure enough, he goes off into a tirade about how Hannah and girls, I'm gonna cry, about how she deserved to be loved, and that he just wants he deserves to be loved, and that's all he wants is to be loved. And I was just like, oh my god. And just the way he said it and everything, that delivery. Oh my heart, my heart.

LA: 32:39

That's that's Castille deep down.

Berly: 32:42

It's all of them, right? It's all of them, right? Yeah, but fuck man, what a like whenever he's like going off Pacific and da da da, like I that turn, I just was it hit me like a brick. I was like, what the fuck? And just once I sat there processing it, I just started crying. I was like, oh my god. And then whenever he realizes you know, Sam just kind of stops what he's doing and turns over his shoulder and is like, what? And Crowley's just sitting there like uh uh uh because he doesn't even understand what came out of his mouth, right? And then whenever Sam's talking to him and is like, okay, we're gonna do another one, and Crowley starts saying, Can I get a favor from you? When you went in there and confessed, because Crowley was in the church, so he saw it. You know, what did you say? How does someone like me? I'm like crying again, how does someone like me even begin? Where do I start? Yeah, because he's starting to feel guilt. He's starting to feel all this stuff, and he's been alive for how many years and been a demon for how many years? And whenever Sam was just like, well, let's let's start with this, you know, closing the gates of hell. This is where we start. And the way he just leaned his head over, just submitted. Oh Kevin calls Dean and Cass, and it's just like, listen, I don't know what the fuck that Metatron was talking about. I am not seeing anything about killing anaphilum and Cupid's butt, like all this stuff. I'm not seeing this on the tablet. Yeah, maybe I'm just not there yet. Maybe I'm misreading some stuff, but I'm not seeing it. So I'm I'm at the trials part and it's not there. I don't know what to tell y'all. And as he's talking to Dean and Cass, Naomi shows up and she looks terrified. She tells them that she's been looking through Metatron's brain and that he's not trying to close the gates of heaven, he's trying to cast all of the angels out of heaven and begs them to stop. And Cassial is just determined, like, no, fuck you, bitch. You're a liar. Can't blame him, right? After what she's done to him all season, cannot blame him. But I think Dean probably picked up on that she's really fucking scared. And so he's like, wait a minute, Cass, like, we need to hear her out. We need to hear out what she's saying. And she was just like, like I told you, like, I want y'all to close the gates uh to hell and all that. And I want to try and be a team player here. And Cass Yell, if you want back in the fold, if you want to come back into heaven and like help us make things right, help make things you did right, I'll hear you out. Like, let's work together. But fuck, man, stop. Like, this is this is not gonna help fix things, what you're about to do. Please don't do this. And Kevin's listening in on the other side, and it's just like, yeah, no, something's not adding up here. They're all kind of figuring that out. I was glad Kevin was still on the phone for all that, right? To hear all that, kind of get that vindication that he's right that he's he's not misreading things or missing something. He's right that these trials are not what's on the tablet. Something shady's going on.

LA: 35:43

Just I mean, like it was verification more. So like he was already saying it, but then for her to say it and then him to verify, like get that verification second, you know. Yep.

Berly: 35:54

And then he was packing whatever he was packing up his bag and just leaving at the end. Where the fuck are you going, Kevin? Yeah, I I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I mean, we he ha he has been saying all season, whenever I finish this, I'm done. So maybe he thought like he could take a little vacay for a little bit.

LA: 36:11

Yeah, yeah.

Berly: 36:12

Whatever's on that angel tablet served. Right, right. But where are you gonna go? True.

LA: 36:18

Yeah.

Berly: 36:19

I would go play around in the bunker.

LA: 36:21

Yeah, I would I would stay in there and read and have a cocktail, you know, hang out there for a little bit.

Berly: 36:27

Maybe he wanted to go get a snack. You're safe. There wasn't any food there. I mean, imagine uh when was the last time he felt so safe, right?

LA: 36:36

I would stay.

Berly: 36:38

There's no TV in there though, so maybe he's bored. But he's an academic. There's a library full of shit.

LA: 36:43

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.

Berly: 36:44

I was just like, where are you where the fuck are you going, Kev?

LA: 36:47

Do you think there's no TV? He has to go catch up on his shows.

Berly: 36:50

Right? Maybe that's what it is. That's what it is. I gotta go find me some HBO Go because these menters were ahead of their time, but not that ahead of their time. Yeah. Oh well. Whatever the reason for his leaving, I'm happy he was where he was, and we got to see all the stuff we got to see from his perspective from that angle. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Cassiel takes Dean back to Sam because it's been eight hours and they need to go check in. Oh, I forgot the most important thing that Naomi told them. Naomi told them that she was looking through Metatron's head, and so she got to see all the trials. She got to see everything on all the tablets. She saw it all. And she was like, Your brother's going to die if he completes these trials. Yeah. It's about complete, it's about committing the ultimate sacrifice. So he's going to die if you let him keep doing it. I want the hell gates of hell closed as much as the next person, but I think that you deserve to know that that's going to be the sacrifice here. So Dean's flipping out at this point. Like, okay, Cass, like, we don't have time to try and do whatever the fuck it is that you're trying to do. We don't even know what we need to do next. Take me to Sam. So Cas Yell does take Dean to Sam and Cass takes off.

LA: 38:00

Dean's probably like, fucking Cass, yet again. Right. Just leaving.

Berly: 38:06

Oh, he went back to heaven. He went back to heaven to talk to Naomi more. Okay, that's what I thought. That's what it was. That's what it was. Okay. She he was like, let me go back to heaven to talk to her more. She said she would hear me out. Let me go, let me go talk to her. And whenever he got there, Naomi was dead on her desk. Her dentist drill had been shoved into the back of her brain. So Metatron got loose somehow and had that. And Metatron grabs Cass and throws him into the torture chair and explains that yeah, it wasn't fucking trials. It's not anything that's from the angel tablet. It's stuff that I know. It's a spell. It's ingredients for the spell. And the last ingredient I need, he takes Castell's grace. So now Castell is like his essence of who he is as an angel, right? I mean, at least he healed his throat first. I thought that was kind of nice. That makeup on that throat was phenomenal. It wasn't just a red line. You could actually see where it was like split open.

LA: 39:03

Madey.

Berly: 39:04

Yeah. That was a phenomenal uh job there. So I guess Castell, he's just like Anna whenever we first met her now. He's essentially human. Which is great because I feel like the writers have been so inconsistent with Castille. Because how can you have any challenges or obstacles that you need to overcome when you've got an angel in your pocket, an all-powerful angel in your pocket? You know, they've had to keep him busy with this, keep him busy with that. He doesn't have time to help the Winchesters with this, or he's the bad guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But now he's gonna be human. So hopefully that's gonna get to change the story and we're gonna get to see more of their dynamic together and all of that kind of stuff. But yeah, Metatron steals his grace and throws his ass back down to heaven or to earth so that he can complete the spell in heaven. Dean goes into the church and tells Sam to stop. I'm gonna cry again. Tells Sam, stop. And Sam's like, what? And he's like, stop. If you if you finish the trial, because he's all lit up now. He's like glowing, he's done all of the injections. It's been eight hours, he's done all eight injections, and he's got his hand cut open and is literally about to go and put his hand on Crowley and finish this last trial. But Dean's like, stop, stop. If you do that, you're gonna die. And the way he just went, so I was like, Oh my god, oh my god! And he was just like, All I do is let you down, and he was so upset.

LA: 40:34

And oh, he said that's what he went to confess.

Berly: 40:36

Yeah, like how he you know, my heart my heart, but he just feels like he's a failure, you know, and and so always letting him down, yeah. And here's something I can do where I can succeed and I can be this ultimate hero. And who cares if it takes my life? Just oh my fucking heart. And his face, like the makeup on him is phenomenal because he looked a fucking mess. And Dean it just cutting his heart whenever Sam was like, You don't trust me, you don't depend on me, you don't lean on me. You know, who else are you gonna go and trust over me? Another angel, another vampire? Like, what it's not me. And Dean just being like, No, like that is never how it's been, it's always been you, and then him going and just hugging him and just I'm sorry, just telling him, like, just let it go, let it go, let it go. And you could see Jared Petaleki kind of relaxed into the hug and just uh and Crowley sitting there who has feelings now. How was he keeping it together? My god. Sam like burns burns out basically. The light like burns away. He starts like reeling in pain, and Crowley's making a face, like clearly, something's happening. We see Castiel is just like in some forest somewhere running around. We see Kevin in Men of Letters bunker, and all these alarms are going off, and the map starts lighting up with all these little red things and whatever, and then we see the meteor-looking shit coming down, and it's the angels getting cast from heaven. I wish they had just left it with the meteor-looking stuff and that they didn't come in and show the person because I want what an angel looks like outside their vessel to stay a mystery. Supposed to be multiple eyes, multiple faces, like all those kinds of stuff, but it just looked like people. And I was like, oh man, why'd y'all show that? Otherwise, this was a fucking insane finale.

LA: 42:40

Yeah.

Berly: 42:40

I mean, that's basically that's basically it. We see these angels falling from the sky in a meteor, and you can see their wings like getting burnt away. I guess maybe that's why they showed it. They wanted us to know that not only are they being cast from heaven, but like they're gonna be fucked whenever they get there. Their wings are getting burned and all that other kind of shit. They're gonna be desperate, scared. It was written by Jeremy Carver, showrunner. No surprise, this was fucking phenomenal, and directed by, no surprise here either, Phil Sagrisha. Oh god. Okay, so gore. I would say the goriest thing was Jody in the beginning, I think. That wasn't even so much gore as it was just phenomenal acting by Kim Rhodes. Yeah. I mean, she fully went there. Her facial expressions, like she was showing discomfort, surprise, confusion, utter terror at the end, whenever she couldn't stop whatever was happening. Just yeah, so that wasn't so much gore as just like phenomenal work from Kim Rhodes. Yeah. So good. I can't think of, I mean, other than the blood injections and stuff.

LA: 43:47

I can't really think of anything else. Well, I mean, I guess Castile's neck opening, but there wasn't really blood.

Berly: 43:51

Yeah, there wasn't really blood, but there was definitely a slit. And so I liked that. That was really good makeup. Moditron's eye was pretty oogy. That bloody eye. Naomi's head bleeding out.

LA: 44:05

Oh, yeah.

Berly: 44:06

I mean, I would say the Gore Award, even though there wasn't that much blood, Kim Rhodes, she made that uncomfortable to watch in like the best way. In the best way. I'm so sniffly. I've been crying for like an hour, I swear. Oh, so adore. Oh, there's so much. There was so much. Crowley, Crowley's actually Mark Shepherd's performance. Yeah. In those I'm like tearing up again, just thinking about it. Oh, just my little outcast redheaded little girl self hearing that. I was just like, oh, I remember feeling like that whenever I was little. Yeah. Oh, shattered me. And then Jared Patalecki as well. Just yeah. And Kim Rhodes. Those those three performances in this episode, just complete knockouts. Outstanding.

LA: 44:55

I thought Jared did a good job with his little speech to Sam too.

Berly: 44:58

Oh, Jensen.

LA: 44:59

What did I say? You said Jared. Yeah.

Berly: 45:02

Jensen. I know Jensen. Jensen's Jensen's just you could tell his heart, the character's heart was just broken hearing that come from Sam. So I I agree with you. His that scene between Sam and Dean at the end there was just phenomenal. It was just phenomenal. I was like already sobbing at that point. So I probably missed quite a few things that were being said. I mean, we're talking like sobbing at that point. But yes, I agree with you. That was that was great as well. What about the lore?

LA: 45:36

Uh well, we're gonna go, we're gonna reuse some lore from season four with the premiere of Lazarus rising over angel lore.

Berly: 45:46

I mean, I'm I have a feeling we are gonna see quite a few of them next season. So I would think so, yeah.

LA: 45:51

Yeah, it makes sense to do a refresher. Here we go. In this article, this one says that our culture has an angel problem. Ooh. Lots of people talk about angels. We've got the guardian angel, hallmark cards, angels on TV shows, angels that regularly feature in all manners of pop culture, highbrow, lowbrow. Uh, we've got sermons about them, and all of this chatter is almost without exception, contrary to the picture of angels that emerges in the Bible. So we're gonna clear up a few things about these angels that are appearing in pop culture. Oh, thank goodness. I know we've all been waiting. Yeah, you're welcome. So angels are not comforting, they're scary. Uh, there's a reason nearly every time an angel appears to humans in scripture, the angel begins by saying, be not afraid. Uh, aside from a thing appearing out of nowhere, their appearance is not what you might think. Angels do not look like fat babies or cute winged people. Or sexy tax accountants. Yeah, no. Oh no. I'm sorry. Boom. They're described as having loads of eyes, fucking terrifying. Oh my god. And multiple faces. I don't think that's gonna be on a Hallmark card. And if it is, take it back. I don't want it. Angels are not dead people who got a promotion. You hear sometimes that when so-and-so died, um, I'm sure they became an angel. But no, angels are beings in the created order, which is quite different from humans. Angels are much like people as people are like dolphins. Okay. So super similar. Sure, we're all made by God, but angels are heavenly beings with different tasks than those given to humans. The Bible does not talk about guardian angels. Angels sometimes help out humans, but they're doing this at God's bidding, and God is the real guardian angel. There is nothing in the Bible which would suggest that angels are assigned one-to-one to watch over a particular person. Cherubim and seraphim are plural words. I know cherub. Right. I'm not that familiar with serif serif. Seraph? How's it spelled? S-E-R-A-P-H-I-M. Seraphim, yeah. But I know cherub is like it's a cherub, but this is plural. Anywho. You said no fat babies, though, so what's a cherub? Well, that's what I think of when I think of a cherub. Same. Right. So these creatures may or may not be angels. Oh. The Bible lists a whole plenitude of orders of created beings. And some people would maintain that the cherubim and seraphim are kinds of angels, but it's also possible to make the case that they're as different from angels as humans are. But in any case, if you're going to talk about them, it's cherub or seraph. So it is serif. Okay. And given the uncertainty of the cosmic order, we could at least get grammar right in this realm. Somebody, oh my god. I like this. I like whoever wrote this. Okay, and honestly, angels don't sing. They probably don't sing, it says there are scores of hymns about angels singing, but there's not much in the biblical sense to warrant it. They seem to shout a lot, though.

Berly: 49:30

Shattering windows and mirrors. Shout. I said shattering windows and mirrors.

LA: 49:35

Oh, you're right. Look at you.

Berly: 49:38

Look, tying it back to the show. Oh.

LA: 49:41

Uh, we join our voices with angels and archangels in our celebrations of Holy Eucharist. There's nothing that would suggest that we have to be singing in four-part harmony, though. Maybe they're shouting color commentary, more likely than shouting God's praise. And the primary task of angels on earth is to carry messages from God. Uh, most of the time when angels appear, it's to bring news. They usually bring this in a stunning, like a stunning news that only looks good with a bit of hindsight. And then we kind of celebrate the annunciation now, but imagine how Mary felt that day. So I what?

Berly: 50:23

When Mary was pregnant, like I think that wasn't it um was it Michael? Was it Michael or Gabriel?

LA: 50:31

Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, I got it, got it, got it.

Berly: 50:33

But they're saying, like you're saying that they like shouted it at her. Yeah. Can you imagine how scary? Well, and they're they're yeah, they look terrible. And you never even had sex. You're pregnant! Multiple faces and eyeballs.

LA: 50:49

I'd be like, um poor Mary.

Berly: 50:50

Oh my god.

LA: 50:53

Oh, to your point, you just brought up Gabriel, and Gabriel shows up a lot. He appears to Daniel, then he shows up talking to Mary and Elizabeth separately. Muslims say Gabriel appeared to Muhammad and reveal and he was revealed in the Quran. And legend has it that Gabriel appeared to Joan of Ark as well. Gabriel is important to all three Abrahamic faiths. This last one is angels are awesome. Literally. Next time you have a few minutes, read about angels, cherubim, and seraphim. You'll find yourself in Genesis, Isaiah, the Psalter, Ezekiel, Daniel, the Gospels, and Revelation, among other places. Where what other ones are there? Sounds like a lot of work. All right. And so today it says, let us celebrate angels, but we should do that with some trepidation because if they show up, it'll scare the shit out of you. But then they'll probably have some amazing news to deliver. Oh, yay. That's what we got on Angels.

Berly: 52:00

Nice. Quote to close it out. It's from Metatron when he was talking about God. When oh, this is what he said whenever Cass asked him what he was like that we couldn't remember earlier. I knew there was yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I didn't write it down earlier. I wrote it down here. Metatron said that God is larger than life, gruff, a bit sexist, but fair, eminently fair. Cheers. Cheers.

LA: 52:29

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