Denim-wrapped Nightmares, a Supernatural podcast
Join SPN family newcomers, Berly and LA, as they explore the TV series, Supernatural, episode by episode. Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
As a way to keep in touch during the 2020 pandemic, Berly and LA started podcasting with their debut, anything-goes talk show, The Tipsy Exchange. During those discussions, Berly and LA realized that they most enjoy talking humorously about TV/Film, mythology, suspense, and hot guys. Supernatural seemed a natural fit. It's a match made in heaven... or hell... you decide!
Now, let's get tipsy! CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞
Denim-wrapped Nightmares, a Supernatural podcast
Remember the Titans (8x16)
Berly and LA dive into Supernatural Season 8, Episode 16: "Remember the Titans" - where Greek mythology crashes into Montana and nobody knows what mountain they're talking about!
The episode opens with a drunk driver hitting a cute moppy-haired guy walking along the road. The victim dies, gets his liver pecked out by a bird of prey, then inconveniently resurrects and walks away - leaving one very confused cop muttering about zombies. Sam and Dean investigate and discover the resurrectee is Shane (actually Prometheus), who has no memory but knows he dies every single day and comes back to life.
Things get complicated when a mystery woman attacks Shane in his motel room, easily tossing the Winchesters aside. She vanishes after declaring herself his "worst enemy," and Shane promptly has a heart attack and dies again. Enter Haley, a woman who found Shane after an avalanche seven years ago and has been searching for him ever since - because he died during sex with her (traumatizing) and left her pregnant with Oliver, a seven-year-old who inherited daddy's daily death curse.
Sam's research reveals Shane is actually Prometheus, the Titan who stole fire for humanity. The attacker was Artemis, daughter of Zeus, who's been forced to kill the love of her life repeatedly as punishment. The hosts loved Artemis's character and weapons, wishing she'd gotten more screen time than the "boring" male characters.
The gang heads to the Men of Letters bunker (still won't move Kevin in from that houseboat though!) and summons Zeus using cheap jewelry-grade fulgurite from a crystal shop - no breaking and entering required this time! Zeus shows up looking suave and menacing, but Haley immediately breaks the trap trying to save Oliver, because apparently she can't wait five minutes to see if their bluff works.
Zeus delights in torturing both Prometheus and Oliver, but Sam cleverly deduces Artemis has feelings for Prometheus. After some quality gossip-girl tactics, Artemis decides to kill her dad instead. Zeus uses Prometheus as a human shield, but Prometheus sacrifices himself by pushing the arrow through to hit Zeus, killing them both in a lightning explosion.
The episode ends with a hunter's funeral for Prometheus (Artemis peaced out with Zeus's body), and Sam finally admitting to Dean that he's worried about surviving the trials. Dean puts on an optimistic front but privately prays to Cas to watch over his brother, showing he's actually terrified Sam won't make it.
The hosts appreciated the Greek mythology angle and loved Artemis, though they noted Oliver never spoke until the very end and Haley kept asking "what curse?" despite clear explanations. A solid episode that balanced action with character development while moving the trial storyline forward.
"Who do we know that has Jason Bourne fighting skills, dies a lot, and has a history with violent women?" "I don't know. You."
Sources:
- https://supernatural.fandom.com/wiki/Remember_the_Titans
- https://www.greeka.com/greece-myths/prometheus/
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Welcome to Denim Wrapped Nightmares, a tipsy exchange podcast, where we explore the supernatural series episode by episode.
LA:Over drinks, we'll discuss the lore, the gore, and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
Berly:I'm Burley, and I'm a new fan of the series.
LA:I'm LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get tipsy. Hello, LA. Hey Burley. On the last episode, it was titled Man's Best Friend with Benefits. And a police officer named James, who had turned to witchcraft after working a case with Sam and Dean a while back, is plagued by nightmares in which he murders innocent people. Uh, but then the murders were actually happening, and Sam and Dean are called in by him to help. But they aren't sure they want to save a witch.
Berly:We continued the discussion of this episode in the Patreon, and I think we hit the nail on the head as to what they needed to have in this episode, more so than commentary on the three stooges. Like when we first meet them, he's sleeping in the bed and she's sleeping on the floor, a dog. She talks about him like he hung the moon. Can you think of a single moment when he talked about her?
LA:Yeah, no.
Berly:No. So I think if the episode had centered more on the relationship of Portia and James, it could have been saved. Because when you watch Twilight, whenever what's her face and Jacob finally started hooking up, you didn't care that he could change it to a wolf because they had spent time developing that relationship. You know? They didn't spend any time developing those two. Yeah. Somebody pointed out that Fifty Shades of Great was getting really popular around this time. Okay. And I can see that inspiration in the episode, but without leaning into it a little bit more, the only time we ever saw those two in a scene together was a handful of times, and half of them, she was a little old dog. Anyway. That was my two cents based off of the discussion from Patreon, and I wanted to share it. But enough about that. Let's talk about today's episode.
LA:Okay.
Berly:It's called Remember the Titans. It's the 16th episode of season eight, and originally aired on February 27th, 2013. We start out in Great Falls, Montana. We see a gentleman, he's driving along. It's night. He's drinking. He's drinking, and he's dozing off, so he's nursing that beer some more. And we see another gentleman, he's walking on the side of the road. He's a cutie. I liked it. I liked what I see. I liked his little curly hair. His moppy curly hair. It was very cute. And he's walking on the correct side of the road against traffic. But unfortunately, the car that's coming from the other way crosses over all of the lanes of traffic as the driver nods off and slams right into Mr. Cutie Pants walking on the side of the road. He's done for. Driver gets out, checks, doesn't even really go over and be like, Are you okay? Like nothing. Just sees him, freaks out, gets in his car, and drives off. So we start off with a hit and run. Morning comes. We have a little time lapse here. And we see Mr. Moppy Hair laying on the side of the road still. He's got like ice particles on his face. Still hit the blood on his forehead had turned like blue. Thought that was a cool touch. Yeah, there's like a vulture or something. Some some bird of prey just perched on his pelvis area and nipping away at where his liver should be. Scavenging. Having a little snacky snack. So the officer, you know, seeing this bird having eaten this men's this man's stomach. I don't know what the difference between an eagle and a hawk and uh doesn't matter. Vultures don't have fur on their heads, though, I don't think.
LA:It wasn't a vulture. Yeah, it wasn't a vulture. Or shaped different than that.
Berly:And they have like the yeah, yeah. So I knew it wasn't a vulture. I wanted to say hawk, but then I saw eagle and I was like, okay, I'm just gonna say bird of prey. Yeah. So the officer very kindly goes over to check the guy's pulse. Even though his guts were apparently spilled out all over the road, and you just saw this bird nip it away. It's protocol.
LA:Gotta make sure. He's just gotta do it.
Berly:Sure enough, there's no pulse. So the officer starts calling in, is like, hey, we gotta hit and run on the side of the road. I need an ambulance, yada yada, yada. Then he turns around and oh, the body's gone. And we had seen him like wake up, like his eyes just kind of opened. And he heals me. Yeah, he all healed.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:And he got cleaned up a little bit too. Like none of the blood was left on his head.
LA:That always bothers me in movies when they heal, get they heal like that, but then it's like, oh, but it cleaned you up too?
Berly:Yeah. There's no there's no residue.
LA:Come on.
Berly:I guess it's just easier for special effects to just have all of it vanish. I'm sure, but but it would have been nice, yeah, to have some dried blood left over something. That would have been a nice touch. And he just gets up and just starts walking into the forest now. I guess he's decided staying on the road is not a good idea.
LA:Well, yeah.
Berly:Or maybe he looked over and saw the cop and was like, uh oh. That too. Gotta get out of here. Yeah. We're not sure. But the cop.
LA:I don't know how to explain this to him. Right?
Berly:How do I be like, no, it's okay, officer, cancel that call. Yeah. I'm alright. So it was probably that. It was probably him going, oh fuck, and take it off running into the woods. So the officer walks over to where the body was and sees these footsteps going off into the forest. I told LA I would have had to be like, uh, dispatch, I'm gonna need a personal day.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:I don't know how to explain what I just saw. I loved this officer, by the way. Whenever Sam and Dean go to talk to him later about the body, he's like, zombie. Yeah. Zombie. Zombies don't get up and walk away. That was a zombie. I know. Yeah. And whenever his assistant finds the body and he's like, that's the same guy. Zombie, let's go. And they're like, no, no, no, chill out. We got it. And he goes, shoot for the head. Boys.
LA:Go for the head. Go for the head.
Berly:I liked him. Yeah. I liked this cop character. But after he likes sees, oh my god, footsteps, forest, not going that way. He goes, supernatural. Then we are at the bunker in Lebanon, Kansas. Dean loves him, those robes.
LA:He really does.
Berly:Mm-hmm. They must be comfy, comfy, comfy. And Sam has gotten himself a glass of water from the sink. And then as he's walking away with his glass of water, he's like, ooh, it just spits into it and it's blood. And then I was like, there's a sink right behind you. Why didn't you just go spit in the sink? And then guess what, guys? Guess what happened?
LA:He goes and spits in that sink.
Berly:Even more blood. Even more blood. And then he's like looking at his mouth, trying to figure out where it came from because he didn't cough it up or anything this time. He just suddenly had a loogie of blood in his mouth. Then Dean's coming. So he like pours it out and like cleans the sink out and gets himself another glass of water. Dean's like, You're acting cagey. You're acting cagey, man. Cass isn't talking to us. Kevin hasn't figured out the next trial. Like, I'm gonna go crazy. I need us to have a case. And Sam said, Well, that's awesome. Because guess what? I keep waiting for you to say something because you're doing our face zombies. He got zombies. Check this out. And they read about the cops saying, Oh yeah, hit and run. And he got up and ran away. So then they go and interview him. And that's when the cop tells him everything, tells him that he didn't follow the body because he went straight into grizzly country. And sure enough, when the assistant finds the body again, he'd been killed by a grizzly bear.
LA:Which I would have been done. I would have been like following him in the footsteps to where he went.
Berly:What the hell? What's happening? I'm so curious. Yeah. Oh, the bit, whatever he said, uh, dead is dog poop. Yeah. Never heard that saying in my life. But I got a kick out of it. I thought it was funny. So the guys go to check out the body, and they do the same thing. Like, check in the poles, like, figure it out, what's going on. And they're like, Yeah, guy's dead. And so they're standing outside of the morgue, and you can see the body on the table in the morgue through the window that they're standing in front of talking. And they're trying to figure out what to do. You know, do we stick around? And they're like, no, I mean, he's dead. He's dead, dead. Like, that's not moving, he's not getting up, but just kind of going back and forth. And then the body wakes up again and he heals again and he gets up to run. And the guys just happen to look over and he ain't there. The guys are fortunately able to catch him because they notice he was gone pretty damn fast. Dean like slams him on the table. He's like, What are you? And he's like, I don't know. And he's like, Well, you're something, because you were room temperature just a few minutes ago. And he explains that his name is Shane, and he doesn't know anything. He doesn't remember anything. He just knows that he dies every day. So they say, Okay, well, we're gonna get you out of here because you're gonna bring too much attention to you that you keep dying and resurrecting. Like, we gotta figure this out. So they take him back to the motel, and when they get him back to the hotel room, they go through like the whole gamut, like the the silver blade. I'm sure they had some iron and salt, and they had him drink something from a flask, which I assume is holy water. He explains that he had woken up the first time that he remembers. He woke up on some mountain. What'd he say, seven years ago?
LA:Yeah.
Berly:In Europe? Did he say what the mountain was? I don't think so. What mountains are in Europe? Are there any mountains in Greece? You think maybe it was Mount Olympus?
LA:No.
Berly:We're stupid. Anyway, let's move past that. The guys decide that they trust him and they don't think he's a flight risk. He's like just wanting to clean up and all of that. So they decide to get their own room and let Shane have the room that they had. Well, we see that night there's a woman standing in his room watching over him. She's there to kill him, but she just like sits on the bed and looks at him for a while instead. And then he wakes up. He's like, Who the fuck are you? And she's like offended. She's like, What the fuck? You don't remember me? Well, you know, I'm I'm here to kill you. That's who I am. And so they end up having a little bit of a tussle. And Sam and Dean, I guess they hadn't gone to sleep just yet, even though it's supposed to be the middle of the night. Because Dean comes running in fully clothed, shoes on and everything. Do they just sleep like that when they're on the road?
LA:I guess.
Berly:I guess. Fully clothed. And she just has no problem, just like brushing him aside. Sam, same thing, knocks his ass out against the cars. But Prometheus is actually holding his own up against this chick. He ends up actually turning things around on her and getting her slammed up against a wall and has her knife in his hand. They were just like, Who are you? Like, what the fuck? Why are you here? And she just kind of vanishes slowly.
LA:She says, I'm your worst enemy.
Berly:After Sam and Dean are going, What the fuck? What was that? Who was that? How did you learn to fight like that? What's going on here? Prometheus is like, Oh my god, I've never had a fight before. Hang on, just give me a second. And then he has a heart attack and dies.
LA:I mean, the fight was impressive.
Berly:It was cool. It was choreographed really well. I enjoyed it. You know, one of my biggest I understand why it needs to be choreographed this way for safety reasons, filming reasons, choreography reasons, but it always bothers me whenever it's like multiple people coming in to fight one person, and yet somehow the fight still always ends up being one-on-one rather than four on one or whatever. And I liked that since she was a god and she could just kind of woof, woof, like that it was even though it was three-on-one, it made sense that it was still one-on-one. Yeah. And her haircut. I liked her haircut. Yeah. She was pretty chic. The next morning, a woman shows up at the hotel. Sam and Dean answer the door. They're back in Mystery Man, Mystery Dead Man. Oh, he's told them at this time his name's Shane. So they're back in Shane's room while Shane is getting better from his next death. And she explains that she's looking for Shane. She knows what's going on. She is the woman who found him when the mountain he was on had an avalanche. And they survived getting down the mountain together. And by the time they got to the bottom of the mountain, she let him in her mountain. No?
LA:I mean, sure.
Berly:She let him mountain. She let him mountain her. Mount her. Get it? Get it?
LA:Got it.
Berly:Well, then he died while he was in her. I was just like, I guess that they were like, okay, the psychic connection where you're seeing the people getting murdered, that wasn't a scary enough sex scene last last time. So let's talk about a sex scene where the dude literally dies on the woman. Oh. And I'm just like, who was on top? Do you think do you think he was on top and was dead weight on top of her?
LA:Probably.
Berly:Well, that wasn't a traumatizing enough experience for good old Haley here to have survived this mountain with this man who she found and he kept dying every day while they were coming down the mountain. She'll be coming down the mountain. And she didn't realize that's what was happening. She thought that it was just like hypothermia or like a condition because he wasn't in good shape when she found him. I mean, surely she realized what was happening, but just like thought she was hallucinating, maybe, or something. Who knows? Who knows? Uh, but it wasn't until after he died while they were fucking, and she had him in the hospital or whatever, and then all of a sudden he comes to life again that she freaked out and ran away from him. But he had already knocked her up. After this whole incident, Shane had disappeared into some cabin, but then there were people growing pot near the cabin that were getting paranoid and they kept trying to kill him. So he was like that's why he was like, I guess it's starting to move on, and just walking along the side of the road. So she hasn't been able to find him because he didn't have an address, he didn't have an Instagram, he had nothing. He just vanished.
LA:Yeah, didn't he say he was even hunting for his own food and stuff?
Berly:Yeah, he's just minding his business, not going to a grocery store, he was doing nothing. He was just sitting at home. And it's like, I almost want to know what were all the different ways that he died? Was it just a heart attack every day?
LA:I mean, unless he hurt himself somehow, I guess. Yeah.
Berly:Were were some days like fate changed things up? Had you fall in the bathtub, had you stab yourself in the throat? Like, I don't know. I'm just curious if it got really boring the ways that he was dying every day.
LA:Probably real annoying.
Berly:I forgot. When they were in the morgue, and he was explaining, like, I don't know, I just die every day, and then I come back to life. And Dean goes, What are you, Kenny? Oh, is that what he said? Yeah, he said, Kenny. I need to watch the new season of South Park. I still haven't yet. So Haley sees that Prometheus has finally woken up and is just like, We don't know he's Prometheus yet. Oh yeah, Shane. Shane. She has seen that Shane has woken up. And so she goes walking up to him and is just like, hey, and he's like, What the fuck, Haley? Hi. This woman that you survived the avalanche with, and she just shows up after running out on you seven years ago, suddenly here, and she has a kid with her. I don't think he I don't know if he did the math or not, but she was like, I think it's about time you two meet. So her kid, did we ever find out his name? Oliver. Oliver. Little Oliver, cute as could be, but he doesn't talk. He is traumatized because it turns out he's inherited his daddy's curse. He is dying every day ever since he turned seven. And I think he's only like seven years old. So mama has been looking to try and hunt down Shane ever since this started happening because she doesn't understand what it is. And she still couldn't understand what it was whenever they told her it was a curse. Sam does some research and figures out that the only thing that makes sense is that Shane is Prometheus.
LA:A Greek titan.
Berly:And they're assuming, yeah, the Titans. Titans, the gods before the gods. They're guessing that the attacker is Artemis, who's the daughter of Zeus. And as they're talking about Shane's curse and what they think that they can do to solve it, to try and fix it, Haley's just going, what curse? What curse? while they're waiting for Oliver to resurrect again. How did he die? He fell. That's what it was. He fell. Sam and Dean decide they aren't going to be able to solve this problem here. They need to go somewhere safer. So they take everybody to the bunker to start their research and figure out what their next steps are going to be.
LA:I like that it says, after extensive research, Dean finds it. It's like, was it really that expensive? He just had the one book. I mean, we don't know how long they were there. I I know just what I still really like the bunker. I'm gonna be sad when we we leave it.
Berly:It's cute. I want to see more of it. Yeah. We've seen Dean's room. We've seen the library. We've seen that cute little foyer. I shouldn't even say little, that giant planning room with like that big table and all those instruments and stuff in there. They do park like just right out front the door though. And so I'm like, it's home. Yeah. Like y'all are telling everybody about the secret society. Yeah, like what did what did Haley do to earn their trust for them to be like it's a secret society?
LA:Or Shane.
Berly:Or to to be brought back to the bunker, just like brought in there. And y'all still haven't moved in, Kevin. He is still on the boat. But let's get Shane and Haley and Oliver in the bunker and let them be in here. Give them all our secret. Let's just say if LA and I found a bunker, none of y'all would know. We wouldn't tell anybody. As they're researching, they figure out how to summon Zeus. They need the blood of a worshiper, a fulgurite, or a bone, the bone of a worshiper.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:The fulgurite, and then I don't remember what the other thing was. Oh, there we go. A tree struck by lightning. Oh, that's right. So they need these things. Oh no, that's the stake. The stake is the tree struck by lightning. That's what they need to kill him, not what they need to summon him. Haley and Shane are there with Sam and Dean as they're figuring all this out. Dean had found it in a book about what was his name? Dokolos? Delakabos?
LA:I don't know what it was.
Berly:And it meant Dragon Dick. Yeah. It translated to Dragon Dick. I wonder if that's for true. Uh, but anyway, this guy had written a journal all about trapping Zeus and trying to hunt Zeus. He was trying to get Zeus, and the men of letters had his journal and had translated it. So it was a loose translation, Dean said, whatever he was getting made fun of. Sam and Shane decide to go get the bone and the wood. And then Dean says, So we're gonna be on B E talking to Haley. And I thought this was funny. After Sam and Shane leave the room, Haley's like, So B E, so you mean breaking in a ring? And I'm like, thank God she got that. Because if I had to hear her go, what curse? What curse? What are we doing? What what? What is happening? But honestly, you know what? We should cut her some slack because I would have a really hard time absorbing that I fucked Prometheus as well. Yeah. There was a lot of information to be thrown at her. So we'll cut her some slack. But I did love that she was like, so B and E, what why do we need to do a B and E? And Dean was like, oh well, for the Fulgarite, we we had to rob a one percenter whenever we needed it for our last spell and da-da-da. So rare.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:And I think we talked about this in that episode. So it was fun for her to go, like you can get that in crystal shops. People use it for jewelry and shit. We can just go mix them up.
LA:For cheap jewelry specifically.
Berly:Be any unnecessary. Oh, Oliver is alive again, by the way.
LA:Oh yeah.
Berly:He's come back to life.
LA:He's really just there.
Berly:He's just kind of there in the background. And let me tell you, that kid's gonna need some serious therapy.
LA:Oh yeah.
Berly:My goodness. They all get together in some abandoned warehouse somewhere. And they've drawn the sigil on the floor and had the bone and all that other kind of stuff. And they do summon Zeus. I liked his entrance. It was pretty cool.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:The lightning. The lightning and everything. And I liked that he was in like that all black suit. Does Zeus have both eyes? Oh, I'm thinking of Odin. Oh, yeah. I'm thinking of Odin. Wrong one, wrong one. So it's just this very suave, bearded man. He's very menacing and evil. He is just like, come on. Do we have to do this? Like, can't we do the civilized way? Can't we do it the easy way? And Dean's like, yeah, like just break the curse.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:Break the curse and no problem. Otherwise, we're just gonna fucking kill you and see if that breaks the curse. And he's like waving his stake around. His lightning tree stake. Zeus ain't budging. So they call his bluff. Shane slash Prometheus, Sam, and Dean, all three are like, yep, okay, cool. Have fun rotting away in here. It's abandoned. You'll never be found. See ya. And they tried to turn around and walk away. But Haley, fucking Haley, caves and goes and breaks the seal on the sigil and begs Zeus to save her son. And Dean told her before this happened, like, he's not your friend. This isn't about asking him for a favor. This isn't about begging him to do something. This is about getting him to do the right thing, getting him to decide this is the right thing and doing it. Um, and so she fucking but he has a mama. It's a mama trying to save her kid.
LA:But it was also pretty apparent they were trying to call fluff.
Berly:Agreed. So and like she didn't even try. She didn't even turn around. Where'd you think he was gonna go? You couldn't even give it five minutes. You couldn't have done that, like gone outside and then been like, it's been too long. Like we're gonna lose him. Somebody's gonna come save him.
LA:Let's just chit-chat out here until he decides to come around.
Berly:Well, Zeus gets out of the sigil because of Haley. And turns out, you know, again, this menacing guy in all black isn't a good guy. Who knew? Who saw that coming? Not Haley.
LA:She did not.
Berly:So it turns out Zeus is fucking thrilled that this is Prometheus' son and that he has the same curse. Because this means he gets to hurt Prometheus twice as bad because he'll have to watch his son die, on top of him having to die himself every day, which is just awful. Artemis has shown up by now, and so she's kind of standing guard over near Sam and Dean. And as Zeus is being disgusting and like, come here, my dear boy. Like, come over here. We're gonna have you die in front of your daddy. I want to watch. And I think he was actually gonna kill him because he electrocuted, yeah, he electrocuted um Prometheus for a little bit, fucking him up, and then was like, Oh, come here, now it's your turn, little boy. And it's just like, oh my God. And so Artemis is like, this is uncomfortable. You two come with me. We're gonna go out here. We're gonna go out here and find somewhere private and quiet for me to kill you away from this disturbing scene where the love of my life is being tortured by having to watch his son be tortured. Well, while they're walking, Sam, which I don't know what Sam picked up on. Oh, I guess it's just that he could tell she was uncomfortable. Because she was like standing there watching, but she like kept looking away. Like you could tell she she wasn't happy about what was happening in there. She wasn't being I liked what the actress did though. She it wasn't exaggerated. It wasn't like she was scowling or or wincing or anything. It was just like this very clear, I don't want to watch this, I don't want to be in here. Um, but I'm here because I have to be.
LA:Daddy told me to.
Berly:Yeah. I guess that's what Sam picked up on. And it's like, I don't know, Sam. Good, good swing because maybe she just didn't like the idea of a child being tortured. Yeah. You know? But Sam Sam took a swing and he ended up being right. He is at first taunting her by being like, Yeah, Dean, this is the god of hunters. This is who who we're supposed to worship, but she sucks now. She's just like, fuck you, and slams them both up against a wall. Dean has no idea what's going on. So he's like, You're fucking trash talking a god? You're gonna trash talk a god, Sam? What the fuck?
LA:All his faces he made as his head was like smushed to the wall. It was funny.
Berly:Yeah, he was so confused. He was making Jensen Eccles did great in this scene with the facial expressions he was making. They were perfect. They were perfect, completely opposite of Artemis, right? Like everything, everything on his face, but appropriate. It was appropriate. Sam switches tactics while they're smashed up against the wall, turns into gossip girl, and is like, oh my god.
LA:He totally loves you.
Berly:Guess what, Artemis? He told me. He whispered it to us. He said, You're the love of his life. Oh my god. Well, then Artemis is like, holy shit, are you serious, Sam? Aren't they like brother and sister? Oh no, Prometheus, is Prometheus the son of Zeus? Oh, I guess we're gonna find out in a little bit. But who cares? They're gods, and she is into it. She's like, oh my god, that's amazing. He left. I knew it. Even though he had children with other people, oh my god, I knew he wanted me. That is so exciting. So she decides, you know what? If I have a shot with Prometheus, I guess I'm gonna go kill my dad. Yeah.
LA:Sorry, daddy.
Berly:Yeah, that's the next logical step. That's the next thing we need to do.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:And because you guys let me know that my crush loves me, I'm gonna let y'all live. So why don't y'all come in here with me and I'll show you why I'm the god hunter, hunter of gods. No, hunter god. There we go. That's what I wanted to say. I'm the hunter god. Look at my cool bow and arrow. Look at this shit, guys. I did like her weapons. It was very cool. I liked the Artemis character. Like I almost wish that they had just had her for something.
LA:Like her knife was cool and like silver, and then so the whole bow and arrow, all of it would look like a little bit of a little bit more. Very cool or silver, yeah.
Berly:I liked her better than Zeus. Zeus's entrance was cool, but then in the end, he was just an asshole.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:And no offense to Prometheus, he was a cutie.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:But he was kind of boring, other than that.
LA:True.
Berly:And so was his kid, if we're gonna be honest here.
LA:Oh yeah. That little shit. Which is true. I like at the end, you were like, I don't think he had one line. To remind you, well, she did say stop talking when he turned. I totally forgot. Or I missed it. I don't know. That's usually me missing stuff. I don't think the child of the corn has said anything this whole episode. He's just stood there being creepy. He honestly just looked really sad. Just sad.
Berly:So depressed. Not happy. Well, I mean, if you were a kid and you were dying every day for however long, I mean Yeah, it'd be depressing. Be depressing. Yeah, so that was a little understanding. Understandable. Anyway, Artemis, the cool person in this episode, came in there with her badass arrow and like told her, like, Dad, I love him. This isn't gonna work with you just torturing him every day. I don't like it. Actually, I don't think she said anything. She was just like, hey, eat arrow. Yeah. Let go of her bow, and then Zeus grabs Prometheus and uses him as a human shield.
LA:Not cool, guy.
Berly:Not cool. Like I'm trying to remember. Did she say, like, Daddy, I love him?
LA:She said something.
Berly:She said something. I feel like it wasn't daddy, I love him, but I feel like it was basically daddy, I love him. Yeah. So how mean was that of Zeus to be like, oh, you love him?
LA:Here.
Berly:Sure. Kill him. Shoot him with your arrow.
LA:Good fun time. Prometheus got him.
Berly:Oh my god, I loved that. I did like that.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:As much as I wish, like, get rid of those two. Just give me Artemis. Give me more about Artemis, but you know, whatever. Um, I did love this. So Zeus was basically like laughing, thinking he's won. Artemis is devastated, has dropped her shit, and it's just like heartbroken that she just killed the love of her life. After finding out, after how many years, actually, she didn't really find out, but after thinking after how many years that she has a shot, boom, he's dead. Or he's not dead yet. But before he dies, he grabs the arrow and shoves it through all the way so that it hits Zeus and it kills Zeus in a lightning ball. Yeah, that was pretty cool. But unfortunately, like Prometheus ain't waking up this time. Poor sheen. That sucks. Yeah. Artemis.
LA:She took it really well.
Berly:Right?
LA:Just went over, grabbed his hands, looked up at Haley and the boy, and then she was gone.
Berly:Yeah, she was out. She didn't say she didn't say a whole lot either. This was the opposite. Last week's episode, too much dialogue, too much exposition. Show me some more stuff. And then this episode, complete opposite. But they got to the point. Like there weren't any gaps in the story. We we didn't need a whole lot of exposition. Any exposition we needed, we got between Shane being like, This is what I know, and then Haley showing up and being like, Well, this is what I know. We got what we needed. But yeah, Artemis peaced out. She just took Zeus's body, she just took Daddy Zeus back to Mount Olympus. She was like, Y'all deal with the other one. And they did. Yep. Gave him a hunter's funeral. While Dean stayed over by the pier pyre, what do you have? Yeah. Yeah. Comforting Haley. Of course. She's devastated that her avalanche friend is gone.
LA:I really hope she wasn't like counting on getting like child support, you know. Not gonna happen. I know.
Berly:I wish I wish that at the end when they were standing at the pyre, she looked up at Dean and went, What curse?
LA:Oh my god.
Berly:It's like she literally just said, Yeah, he died every day on the mountain. Then he died while we were having sex. They came back to life every time. And now my kid is every die dying every day. I know about that, but what's this curse that you all speak of?
LA:Also, again, can someone explain to me what is this curse? Just like how like if the guy disappears and not you see footsteps, I would have followed. I I need to know what happened. If I somebody died while I was having sex with them and then they came back to back alive, and they tell you this happens every day, I would need to know more about that. I wouldn't run away. I'd be like, tell me more. I don't get it.
Berly:Yeah, but you want to be immortal. So you would be going, so how'd you do that? Let's figure this out. Tell me everything. But anyway, so that's happening over by the fair. And then Sam is just sitting in the back of an SUV or something with little Oliver, who still looks super sad. And Sam just wants to cheer him up. So he's like, you know what? Fuck fuck your dad's funeral. Like, let's fuck off. Let's go get some ice cream Sundays instead. And little Oliver goes, No, I'll stay here. I'd like to stay. I'd like to stay. And the way he said it, I'm like, so is he like a god, like child of the corn god?
LA:Well, he's gonna need a lot of therapy after all that.
Berly:My goodness. I mean, at least he's talking again. Well, I mean, it's a step. You know, we got that going for us. So they say they bid their adieus to Haley and Oliver. Likers.
LA:Good. She said it like three or four times. I'm sorry. I'm just having a hard time wrapping my mind around all this.
Berly:She knows how to get Fulga right, alright? She's gonna be fine.
LA:True. She was helpful in that.
Berly:Sam and Dean are returning to the bunker after having burnt their umpteenth body. And Sam goes, you know what? Oh no, first Dean congratulates Sam on figuring out that Artemis had the hots for Prometheus. And Sam admits that like that he just was going on a whim there, that he was just making a guess.
LA:Shot in the dark.
Berly:Yeah. Good luck. Good job, buddy. And then Sam goes, you know, I'm starting to be a little worried that maybe I'm being a little naive, or maybe I was being a little naive, thinking that I could go through these trials and come out unscathed. It's like, yeah, you think? How many times have you coughed up blood now? And apparently you don't even need to cough it up now. Apparently it just jumps just gets in your throat. Yeah. And Dean says, Well, too bad, because you promised me you're gonna live to an old age.
LA:Clark Griswold line long life.
Berly:And you're you're gonna you're gonna stick to that bargain. Uh and what did Dean say? Like it's my turn? Dean said something about it being his turn. And so I had to like do a little rewind in my mind. And I was like, wait a minute, I think it actually is Sam's turn. Because Sam died in season two, whenever Jake Aldous Hodge stabbed him in the back and severed his mind. Dean died in season three, whenever the hellhounds came and attacked him. Sam didn't die, but he went to hell and got locked in the cage at the end of season five. Dean, same thing, like he didn't die, but he got blown away to purgatory. Right? Yeah, so it's Sam's turn, not Dean's turn, is my point. Okay. Anyway, Dean's real up, like he's being the one who's optimistic now. He's the one who sees the light at the end of Sam's tunnel now. Sam does not see the light at the end of his own tunnel anymore. I mean, it's still there. It's just not as clear. He's worried. He's starting to be like, I've only done one, and it's been a while since I did it. We cut to the bunker. Dean is sitting on his bed looking a little morose, and then he finally calls out to Cass. And he's like, I don't pray often, but I need you now. I need you to keep an eye on my brother. I need you to protect my baby brother. Like, Dean's not normally the optimistic one, and I love that he's putting on the show of optimism, and then we see like he's actually still terrified and thinks that his brother might not make it.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:This episode was written by Daniel Laughlin and directed by Steve Boyum. Haven't seen that name in a little bit. Let's see here. When's the last time Boyum directed something? Let me look real quick. Yeah, we haven't seen Boyum since season five. So it's been a little bit. Last episode he did was Swan Song. That was a good one. He deserved that break. He just was like home run. And then he pieced out for six and seven, and now he's back. He only has one more episode left in the series, though. All right. Gore. I would say the goriest thing was the fucking bird at the beginning, the bird of prey pecking away at his liver. They did specify uh with the grizzly thing that his liver was gone too. So I'm gonna be interested with your lore as to what the relevance was with that. Because they didn't explain it. But I like that. I like it whenever they mention something, but don't necessarily explain the relevance to it. And we get to find out about it in the lore. That's fun to me. But yeah, that's the goriest thing I can think of.
LA:Yeah. I think in Sam's bloody spits.
Berly:It was gross.
LA:When he just like spit in the water, you and our both like, oh, oh.
Berly:Did you adore anything about this episode? I mean, we both liked Artemis. Yeah.
LA:And I I I liked that they brought in like some of the Greek mythology. That was kind of nice. But yeah, mostly her.
Berly:I'm trying to remember because Zeus was in Hammer of the Gods. I remember that because I remembered thinking it was weird that they had both Zeus and Boulder. Wait a minute. Odin. No, it was Odin. It wasn't Zeus. Oh yeah. I keep confusing the two. Can you blame me? Jeez. So never mind. I was gonna say I can't remember if it was the same actor, but it wasn't the same god, so scratch that. Okay, well, what about the lore?
LA:Alright, well, this uh we're gonna be talking about Prometheus. And this is an article from Greeka.com. I like that. I'm gonna have to check it out. So Prometheus, the friend of man. The story of Prometheus holds a special place in Greek mythology and in popular imagination. The son of a titan is regarded as one of the great benefactors of humankind, the bringer of fire, and the original teacher of technology and the useful arts to man. Wow.
Berly:I did like the um conversation between Prometheus and Sam. I did forget to bring that up. Where Sam was like pointing out, like, you literally saved the fucking world, man. Like you're a hero. And that he pointed out, yeah, cool, but if my son has to suffer the rest of his life for that, not so cool. Right. And I think that's when Sam kind of started connecting the dots of, uh-oh, there's always gonna be a price to pay.
LA:Yeah, yeah. Uh the great love he that Prometheus had for humans often brought him into a dangerous conflict with Zeus, the mighty and cruel chief of the Olympian gods. The meaning of the name Prometheus, forethought, signifies the intellectual qualities of his many-sided character. According to some accounts, Prometheus is credited with the creation of the male of the human species.
Berly:Thanks, Prometheus.
LA:The conflict with Zeus, Prometheus was born to the titan Lapitus and the nymph Clemini. Although Prometheus was the son of a Titan and supposedly allied to them, he had helped Zeus to gain victory in the War of the Titans. It was the fight between the Titans led by Kronos, the father of Zeus, and the Olympian gods. The war resulted in Zeus dethroning his father and establishing his reign as the chief god on Mount Olympus. Prometheus is also said to have helped in the birth of the goddess Athena by keeping open the head of Zeus as a fully formed Athena issued out of the gaping hole in her father's head. Okay. I guess so, yeah. The relations went well between Zeus and Prometheus in the beginning, however, as men on earth multiplied and prospered, aided by Prometheus, who had given them fire and many beneficial arts, Zeus became concerned about their growing power. The anger of Zeus against mankind and their helper Prometheus was first aroused when the latter duped the chief god into choosing the worst part of a fat of a sacrificial bull. Prometheus wrapped the bones of the slain bull in fat while he covered the best part, the flesh, with the intestines. Zeus unknowingly chose the fat-covered heap of bones while the flesh wrapped in the intestines was given to hungry men by their patron Prometheus. The great sin, stealing the fire from the gods. An enraged Zeus in revenge withheld fire, the most necessary element of civilization, from humankind, putting them to untold miseries. However, Prometheus soon came to help him. He stole fire from the workshop of Hephaha what is it?
Berly:I could look it up. Hephaestus.
LA:Hephaestus.
Berly:Okay.
LA:He stole fire from the workshop of Hephaestas. The god of fire and patron of artisans and craftsmen, and passed it hidden in a stalk of fennel, on to humankind. They're sneaky little things. Stealing stuff left and right.
Berly:According to other accounts. Got my animal fat, I got my fire. Ready. I got my skin, which is the best part, apparently.
LA:Well, according to other accounts, Prometheus stole fire from the hearth of the gods on Mount Olympus.
Berly:I think that's the one that Sam said. Oh, is it? In the episode.
LA:Yeah, yep, yep, yep. Now for the severe punishment. Zeus decided to punish once and for all Prometheus, who had made foul of the chief of gods. He had Prometheus chained chained onto a rock on Mount Caucas.
Berly:Oh, there you go. That's the mountain that he fell on, or that we that they found him on was Mount Caucasus. We were trying to figure out what mountain had the avalanche that they were on, what that would have been, and I assumed Mount Olympus, but Mount C Mount Caucasus makes the more sense based off of the lore.
LA:Anyway, yeah, so he had him chained to Mount Caucasus? Caucasus. Oh, yeah, there you go. For eternity. And put him to relentless torture by having a vicious eagle feed on his liver. Oh, there you go. The liver would grow up again at night. That's an odd way of saying that. Would grow up again at night. You're a big girl now. So that the eagle could happily eat it again the next day. This endless a pin was the punishment of Prometheus for having helped the mankind. He says his screams were full of pain and despair. Even the gods in faraway Olympus could hear them, and Zeus was happy because this was also a warning for his enemies. According to some virgins uh Virgins? According to some versions of the legend, the liver of Prometheus would have been the daily meal of the aforementioned eagle till the end of time, if the great hero Hercules hadn't killed the eagle and hadn't released Prometheus from his torment.
Berly:Way to go, Hercules. Why didn't they have Hercules in it instead of Artemis? I don't know. I mean, I loved the Artemis character, don't get me wrong. But it seems like based on the lore, Hercules. Oh, I I wonder if it was because like Hercules is a Disney character and all that other kind of stuff. If there was like a if he if he wasn't in the public domain for them to use, they didn't have the rights to him. And so they had to switch it out. And they chose Artemis because she's the goddess of hunters.
LA:Maybe there's just like too many, too many sausages in the show. They're like, let's never stopped them before.
Berly:It's never stopped them before, LA.
LA:Maybe they're finally like, okay, we need to switch it up, you know.
Berly:But the real big epiphany here, it was in fact an eagle. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Well, to close it out, when Sam and Dean had seen the fight between Artemis and Prometheus and were trying to figure out who the fuck could this possibly be? Sam said, Who do we know that has Jason born fighting skills, dies a lot, and has a history with violent women? Dean says, I don't know. You cheers. Thank you for listening to Denim Wrapped Nightmares.
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