Denim-wrapped Nightmares, a Supernatural podcast
Join SPN family newcomers, Berly and LA, as they explore the TV series, Supernatural, episode by episode. Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
As a way to keep in touch during the 2020 pandemic, Berly and LA started podcasting with their debut, anything-goes talk show, The Tipsy Exchange. During those discussions, Berly and LA realized that they most enjoy talking humorously about TV/Film, mythology, suspense, and hot guys. Supernatural seemed a natural fit. It's a match made in heaven... or hell... you decide!
Now, let's get tipsy! CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞
Denim-wrapped Nightmares, a Supernatural podcast
Trial and Error (8x14)
Berly and LA dive into Supernatural's Season 8, Episode 14: "Trial and Error" - where the Winchester boys get fancy new digs while poor Kevin survives on nothing but hot dogs!
The episode kicks off with the hosts confused about Kevin's location (still on that gross houseboat, not in the bunker as expected), where he's living his worst life eating plain wieners and having nosebleeds. Meanwhile, Sam and Dean are living their BEST lives in the Men of Letters bunker with Dean decorating his room like he's finally discovered HGTV. Memory foam mattress included - because apparently the Men of Letters were ahead of their time!
Kevin calls with good news: he's figured out how to close the gates of hell! It just requires three trials, starting with killing a hellhound and bathing in its blood. Easy peasy, right? The brothers head to Idaho to stalk the Cassity family, who struck oil 10 years ago under geologically impossible circumstances - classic demon deal territory.
The case gets complicated when they discover multiple family members made deals with Crowley during a charming family dinner 10 years prior. Carl the "trophy husband" traded his soul for Alice's love (consent be damned), while farm manager Ellie made her deal to save her mom from Parkinson's. The hosts initially loved Carl until they learned about his creepy motivations - then it was "fuck you, Carl."
Things get steamy when Ellie shoots her shot with Dean in the most direct way possible, leading to the hosts' hilarious commentary about what they would do in her "last night on earth" situation. Dean turns her down for noble reasons, which probably saved everyone from trauma when his face starts going all hellhound-proximity crazy later.
The hellhound special effects steal the show - the semi-invisible design with glowing red eyes and teeth had the hosts thoroughly impressed. Sam gets to be the hero, killing the beast and getting covered in an ungodly amount of black blood that had the hosts questioning what exactly hellhound blood contains.
The episode ends with Sam completing the first trial (complete with mysterious light traveling up his "thick, hairy forearms" - the hosts are VERY aware of this season's increased scruff factor), setting up the ongoing arc. Dean's not happy about Sam taking on the trials, knowing how these things usually end for Winchesters.
The hosts loved the hellhound effects, the beautiful farm location, and the continuing "daddification" of the Winchester brothers, while lamenting that most of the characters were pretty terrible people who probably deserved their fates.
"Between the claws, the teeth, and the invisibility, those bitches can be real... bitches."
Sources:
- https://supernatural.fandom.com/wiki/Trial_and_Error
- https://www.buzzsprout.com/2076426/episodes/12977493
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Berly:Welcome to Denim-Wrapped Nightmares, Tipsy Exchange Podcast, where we explore the Supernatural series, episode by episode.
LA:Over drinks, we'll discuss the lore, the gore, and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
Berly:I'm Burleigh, and I'm a new fan of the series.
LA:I'm L.A., and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get tipsy.
Berly:Hello, L.A.
LA:Hello, Burleigh. The last episode was titled Everybody Hates Hitler. And you really liked it.
Berly:I liked, I liked Aaron and the golem, their relationship. Yeah. I want to see them in like multiple variations of their relationship. Like I want the platonic odd couple episode with them. I want the, Oh my God. And they were roommates, but then they fall in love episode with them. Like I want to see all the different variations of what that relationship could be. Okay. Interesting. I see a lot of potential. You clearly do. With Aaron and the golem. Okay. I liked that episode, Ellie. I am aware. Well, just
LA:so everybody knows. In the episode, Sam and Dean investigated the death of Rabbi Bass, who spontaneously combusted. The case became even more confusing when they learned that the rabbi was
Berly:researching Nazi necromancers. Sam and Dean were attacked by a golem who turned
LA:out to belong to the rabbi's son, Aaron. The key to the case lied with the golem, but Aaron didn't know how to control him, which left everyone in danger.
Berly:I liked that episode. You
LA:don't say.
Berly:Mm-hmm. Today's episode is titled Trial and Error. It's the 14th episode of season eight, and it originally aired on February 13th, 2013. Valentine's Day Eve. Almost, yeah. Oh my goodness.
LA:Such an important holiday.
Berly:Right. So right away, LA and I were confused whenever this episode started, by the way, guys. Because it shows Kevin still on the boat. Yes. On the houseboat. And we thought... they had moved him in to the bunker, to the mental letters bunker. I
LA:mean, I guess it makes sense. Cause it is odd that they would just mention, he would just be like, Oh, he's in his corner, but then never show us that he's in the same building as them.
Berly:I just assumed they didn't have the budget for the guest star. Yeah. And they needed, they just needed us to know that for the story. Yeah. True. Could have been, but I guess it wasn't an important plot point that he was there. So we figured out whenever Dean said, Oh yeah, Kevin's in his corner. What did you say? LA? Oh, in his little corner of the world corner of the world yeah but he's still on the houseboat be a little more specific dean come on i mean i hope they're gonna move him in you would think why y'all still leaving him there you just saw he's eating hot dogs every day it was gross move him in where there's a real kitchen yeah my goodness i hope his hot dogs my mosquito's coming out right now pardon me y'all anyway we see kevin going through his daily routine which sucks
LA:Yeah.
Berly:And it's gross. Mm-hmm. And it didn't involve bathing. I was disturbed. Didn't see him. Did we see him brush his teeth? No. Ugh. It's real rough, guys. But he's working away on this tablet. And we find out later in the episode it's because he thinks that if they close the gates of hell, he's done. That he can go back home and go back to his normal life. I have a feeling that's not going to be the case. Oh, come on. But I applaud his positivity and trying to... He needs... He deserves it. He's an AP student. Okay. I think that's the best it's ever going to be for Kevin. Because his nose is bleeding and he's having many strokes from staring at these tablets. What if he's
LA:an AP student that helped
Berly:close the gates of hell? I think it's going to kill him. Figured out how. It's going to kill him. He's going to die. Oh, I hope not. Mm-hmm. Poor Kevin. Yeah, I don't think things are going to end well for Kev. But they need to move him in that bunker. At least let him be comfortable and shower regularly and have food. food that isn't just hot dog wieners. Not even condiments. Nothing. Just literal wiener. It was disgusting. I guess Sam and Dean are like, we finally have a place of our own. Nobody else is coming in. None of you people. Yeah. Sorry for you. No way, Kevin. You just keep having nosebleeds and passing out, then throwing up afterwards. Anyway, Kevin calls Sam and Dean while they are enjoying their freshly cooked burger on a glistening glistening toasted bun with fresh vegetables. I saw lettuce, tomato. I'm going to decide it was beautiful, organic, grass-fed Angus beef after we just watched Kevin with his wieners. Yeah. So they're enjoying that. Sam bites into it and is just like, oh my God, so nutritious. He's so impressed because he didn't think Dean even knew how to work a kitchen. And when did they get so daddy?
LA:You said that.
Berly:They've got like the five o'clock shadows I'm like, they used to be so clean-shaven every single episode. I noticed it in the last episode because Dean's 5 o'clock shadow seemed to be almost manicured. It was just so pristine, the lines. He's just
LA:so perfect.
Berly:I think so. Yeah. I think so. I'm like, when did it happen? When did they stop doing the clean-shaven look? Because I'm just now noticing this season, but I don't think it just started this season.
LA:Are you going to talk about how cute it was, Dean in his nest? how
Berly:cute was it I loved it so after we see Kevin living his life through hell and shitty house shitty houseboat having a terrible life and looking at his mood board from the demon tablet and then he like realizes oh fuck like I figured something out yay and then his nose starts bleeding he's like uh oh and passes out then we cut to the bunker and we see like Sam and Dean living their best lives having a wonderful time Dean is so excited to have his own room for the first time at He's decorated. He's decorated. He's got his guns hanging out of the walls, his knife. He's got his picture of his mom placed on his desk. He's got a memory foam mattress. Which, how did the men of letters were ahead of their time to have some memory foam? Or did he go out and buy a new mattress for his bed? I guess maybe that's
LA:it. They ordered one.
Berly:Nope, I'm going to choose to believe the men of letters were ahead of their time.
LA:Okay. It's an old bed.
Berly:Old memory foam bed. I don't
LA:know
Berly:if
LA:they had memory foam beds. They're
Berly:ahead of their time. LA. Did I say memory phone? Memory phone. Nah. Dean's very excited about all of this. And Sam is very entertained by all of this. Dean's talking about how it's so clean. There's no stains. There's no nothing. And then Sam goes to shoot his gum wrapper trash into the trash can. Misses. And Dean is just offended by this. Not in my room. What the fuck? Yeah. Anywho, while they're living their best life in the bunker, Kevin calls them and is like, Come help. That's it. That's it. That's all we get. I think he passes out again. Yeah. They're just like, well, shit. I guess we need to come. I guess we're going to go. They do need to come. They do need to come, L.A. Yeah, they do. But not on that houseboat. Gross. No. No. Take me to the bunker. Yeah. No, my memory phone's not fun for the pushing to the cushion. Is there couches in there? Maybe that library. Some role play. Yeah. So they go to the houseboat and they kick in the door because Kevin and doesn't answer the door when they show up. And Garth, yet again, is not there. He's never there when they go by. Except for whenever it happens off camera. I hope we get Garth again. Anywho, Kevin's hurling his guts out before he explains to them, oh my god, I figured out how to close the gates of hell. Here is this spell that you have to say, but you have to say the spell at the end of three trials. You have to say at the end of every trial. I've only decoded one trial so far, but here it is. You have to kill a hellhound and bathe in its blood and they're like easy peasy lemon squeezy no problem we just need to find somebody who made a deal 10 years ago stalk them wait until the hellhound comes to kill them and bingo bango we got our bitch yeah Kevin we're just gonna leave you here again even though we saw the shit life you were living and we're gonna give you conflicting messages cause Sam's all like take care of yourself rest sleep take some time off take a nap you've showered and already so much better so much better Even though Dean did say, you know, get a salad. Let's get some roughish in you. Dean did also leave and be like, no, hit the tablet. Figure it out. Get back to work. Here's some pep pills for you. Yeah, pep pills. Once for pep, once for sleep. Don't OD. And here's some organic tomatoes and have at it. We'll see you later. Bye. Enjoy your boat. Enjoy fizzles fully. See you next time, Kev. They take off. Poor Kevin. Oh, my God. Bye.
Unknown:Bye.
Berly:Sam has found this family that's like in Idaho who struck oil 10 years ago. They're super rich, super successful. And apparently geologically, there should not have been oil there. But before he gets to explain all of this, he's like, it's weird. And Dean's like, you had me at weird. Let's go. He's very trusting. Yeah. Let's go stake them out. I believe you, Sammy. So they go to their house. And this is a farm. It's fucking gorgeous. Yes. Beautiful property. Beautiful land here. They go pulling up. It's the Cassidy family. C-A-S-S-I-T-Y. Yes. Cassidy. Not D-Y. Not D-Y. That's important. It's important to the plot. As they pull up, they meet Ellie. She is the manager of the property. And apparently, she's hiring for more jobs than one, guys. Ooh. We'll get there. We'll get there. So as soon as they pull up and get out of the car, she's like, you here for the job? They're like, yeah. And she's like, you ever worked a farm before? They're like, we're quick learners. And she's like, hey, we're used to drifters. Well, as she's talking with them, Carl.
Unknown:Carl.
Berly:Carl comes walking up and is like, hey, Ellie, you should hire them. Give them a job. And they're like, oh, Mr. Carl, are you rich? You're doing well here? And he's like, no, no, no, no, no. I am one of the trophy husbands as he's like patting his beer belly. I know. I thought that was cute. It was funny. I thought he was really, really cute. And honestly, makes me sad that he was the one who made the deal. He said the guys seemed swell. They seemed swell. Hire them, Ellie. Give them the job. And Ellie's like, oh, I'll give them a job, all right. Put
LA:them to work.
Berly:So Ellie hires them. She tells them it's a real shit job. And then literally it cuts to them scooping up poop. It was pretty funny. So while they're working in the stables, they're They see Alice. She is talking to Ellie and basically telling her that she's not going to give organic to the cows anymore. It's her farm. It's her money. And that's how it's going to be. And yada, yada. Ellie's pissed about it storming off. It's my way. It's my farm. Yeah. End of story. Yeah. And I wrote in my notes,
LA:Alice seems like a bitch.
Berly:Doesn't she? Still thinks she's a bitch. I still think she's a bitch. Even after everything. We'll circle back around to Alice. Yeah. And her bitchiness. Bitchiness, not a good person. Yeah. so they're like oh my god she's a bitch she probably made the deal let's let's look at her we think that she did it because they're like sure it wasn't carl freaking sweet sweet teddy bear of a man it wasn't carl and ellie she's the help so what what deal would she have made it's not ellie for a job on a farm yeah so surely it's this bitch in the meantime we see in the evening the evening has come it is now night and alice and carl are having a little dinner together and they're laughing about something. And it was outside, right? Yeah, they're outside. So nice. Beautiful evening. And I can't remember who they were making fun of, but they were poking fun about something, laughing. And then they hear the... And she goes, oh, my God, I bet the horses are really freaked out by that. Let me go check on my ponies. You stay here. My babies. My babies. I'll see you later. So Alice gets up and starts walking toward the stables to go check on the horses. And she is right. They are freaking out. We can hear them. They are not happy with that noise. They know. They know something's up. Something's not right. So Carl's just sitting there with his wine. And then it's like, oh, he just gets attacked out of nowhere. Like, it just, boom, gets him. I
LA:think they, didn't they say he was like practically beheaded?
Berly:Yeah. Yikes. I think it was quick though.
LA:I hope so.
Berly:I feel like it was fast. I feel like it was fast. We
LA:didn't have him for long, but he was memorable.
Berly:I liked his little, his scruffy beard. It's like you're rich and you couldn't clean that up a little bit more. It was a thick one. That's okay. That's okay. We had our 67th blood splooge of the Supernatural series when the Hellhound attacked Carl. And the reason why I say I think it was fast is because when that blood splooge happened, his His scream and his motion immediately stopped. It was like it splooshed on his face and he just
LA:went. Yeah.
Berly:He stopped moving. So I think it was fast.
LA:Yeah. We're going to go with that. I like that.
Berly:Bye bye, Carl. Shouldn't have made a deal. Also. Maybe he got his money's worth. I don't know.
LA:Well, and as we end up finding out he made the deal to have his wife be in love with him. So maybe Carl's not so sweet because he stole 10 years of her life.
Berly:Right. Consent be damned is what Carl said.
LA:He said, I don't know. I want her. I'm going to get her.
Berly:Yeah.
LA:Fuck what she wants.
Berly:Yeah. So maybe he deserved it now. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Not so sweet.
LA:Not so great. Carl. Yeah. Now that we're into it.
Berly:So speaking of Alice talking about this, Sam sees her like petting a horse. It's not a euphemism in the stables. And she's explaining to Sam, I'm fine. She looked at, I was
LA:like, she doesn't seem very upset about Carl.
Berly:And she's confused. She's like, you know, I know I loved him. We had 10 years. years together and I don't understand. I'm fine. I'm not sad. I'm not angry. It's just like the spell is broken. You know, like she's not in love with him anymore. Period. End of story. But as she's continuing to tell the story, she's saying, I never thought anything of him before 10 years ago. I made fun of him. It's like, yeah, she was not a good person. Yeah. And so here's my whole question. Carl, this bitch is making fun of you. Thinks you're garbage and you sell your soul to have 10 years with her. Why?
Unknown:Yeah.
Berly:And it was before they had money.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:And you were fucking her sister. Oh, yeah. So why? What the hell, Carl? Yeah,
LA:he was not a
Berly:nice guy. He's not a good guy. Fuck you, Carl. Fuck you.
LA:You got
Berly:what's coming to you. Dean's like, well, let's get out of here. Let's go find another one. And Sam's like, no, that oil thing still happened, man. And it happened 10 years ago. Somebody in this family made a deal. And it wasn't Carl. He didn't make the deal for oil. He made the deal for Alice. so it's somebody else and everybody in the family's coming here because of what happened yeah for the funeral because of what happened to Carl so I say we fucking stay put and let's see this thing through I think we got more hellhounds coming and Dean's like oh my god you're so smart
LA:yes
Berly:that is what we should do that's totally what we should do by the way I'm the one doing all the trials bro me not you not you because you fucked that married girl and didn't even think about hunting for a year you You know how to leave the job behind. She was
LA:a widow.
Berly:She wasn't, though.
LA:But they didn't know that.
Berly:Dean was like, you saw a light at the end of her tunnel.
LA:I don't think that's what he
Berly:said. You got in there. You saw that light at the end of her tunnel. And I want that for you. I want you to have more tunnels. Go to all of the tunnels. You're going to have all these kids through the tunnels. Tunnel vision, Sammy. So I do the trials because we know how this goes. At the end of this, the person who does it is going to die. You tunnels, me die.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:That's what Dean said. Verbatim. No other way. Verbatim. Yeah. Okay. And Sam was just like.
LA:He's like, okay, sure.
Berly:I'm Sammy. And I'm just going to be like, okay, Dean.
LA:But really.
Berly:And then do what I want anyway. Because I'm Sammy. And he does. And they're like, with our five o'clock shadows. And our glasses. And our hair. Like, Dean's hair looks good because it's all spiked now and different. And then Sam's is like, they both have
LA:really good heads of hair.
Berly:They're like, this is daddy season. It's the season of the dads. Where am I? Sam's hair is looking good. They're both looking real good. Well, true. Since
LA:they're staying, Ellie recruits them to
Berly:serve the family. Oh, that's right. She's like, you know what? Somebody died. So you know what that means? It's party time. I need one of you inside. Serving drinks. Waiting on them. And I need one of you on the grill. I don't think it would have mattered. I think he would have been on the grill no matter what kind of grill it was. True. He just wanted to know what he was getting himself into, you know?
LA:Yeah, well, it's important to know if it's charcoal
Berly:or propane.
LA:You need to know these things.
Berly:I don't do that stuff. Oh, okay, well. So, no, it's not always important for someone to know.
LA:Well... Usually, somebody's going to grill. It's good for them to know which kind of grill
Berly:it is. Anyways, he's out there grilling, and Sam is inside pouring wine. And I love the one that's like, hey... You didn't. Yeah. You can top that off. And then as he pours out the rest of the bottle and it doesn't fill her glass, she's just like.
Unknown:Get away.
Berly:Like garbage. Garbage. I'm like, bitch, do you not have eyes? What's wrong with you? They, I mean, they were all mooning over Crowley. Like what? No offense to Crowley. Right. Because everything they had to say about him. Correct. True. Correct. But clearly y'all have eyes. Come on. Ladies. Get it together. You know? Anyway, this family. This family. No. They need therapy. Oh, yeah. They are not. What am I thinking? The Huxtables? No. Oh, let's not go with the Huxtables. Let's not go with that as an example. What is it? Swiss Family Robinson? Is that a good family? No. They aren't any of that stuff. Okay? The wife died. We don't know how. And the dad has married somebody who's apparently younger than all the daughters. Gross. And all of the daughters hate the dad.
Unknown:Mm-hmm.
Berly:Alice is just sitting there still numb that her husband is dead and she doesn't care and she can't figure out why it's bothering her. Understandable.
LA:True. Even when it comes up that Margo, the youngest one slept with Carl, still just kind of, she's just like, what?
Berly:Why didn't you tell me? Still so confused. And then the middle daughter apparently has some huge pop career, but that wasn't from a deal. It was auto-tuned apparently. I'm guessing the money had something to do with that. It went
LA:downhill because they said she was a drinker.
Berly:You don't say. She's sitting there banging her wine glass. More. Give me more. Not enough. Go get another bottle. So Sam is serving them and then they start talking about the last time they were all together. And apparently it was this wonderful family meal where their dad brought home a traveling salesman. And they were like, this was in the crappy house. This was before. It was in the crappy house. And they start talking about like, oh yeah, he was so suave. He was so charming. Oh, he had an accent. What was his name? And the dad goes, Kenny. The daughters are like, no, no. All the daughters remember. They were like, Crow, Crow, Crowley. And Sam is walking into the room and he hears this and he's like, oh, fuck. And so 10 years ago, this would have been when Crowley was king of the crossroads, right? This was before Lucifer or no I guess it wasn't before Lucifer disappeared he had been locked away already I guess Lilith and Alistair who knows he wasn't king of hell yet he was king of the crossroads at this time so it makes sense that he would have been able to come into town and bang out multiple deals
LA:he's like one after the other come on all on the same property let's get this going
Berly:you gotta be king you gotta be efficient efficient multiples I don't even have to really travel
LA:I'll just go to one this one place
Berly:just convince this man to take me home to his family for dinner take care of it knock them out boom boom boom Sam tells Dean and as they are trying to think okay what's the plan what's the plan we got Crowley right who knows what we're dealing with here Kevin calls and he says hey guys guess what convenient I just deciphered something else new I know I've been looking at this tablet for several episodes now and I haven't been able to tell you anything but now it's just like update after update after update like it's all coming together it's all making sense to me now. I have figured out a way that you can actually see the hellhounds. All right? Amazing timing, Kevin. Really good timing. You know, that shower helped clear his mind. Yeah, I mean, it does sometimes. He needed it. He needed it. So he tells them, you can see them with something scorched with holy fire. And so they're like, okay, so we've got some, what did Dean call it, God juice or something like that? Jesus juice. Jesus juice. Jesus juice. We got some of that holy fire still in the trunk. Because, by the way, I forgot to mention this. They did bring up Cass at the beginning of the episode, like any update from Cass. And Dean was like, he's not answering. So who knows what Naomi is doing to our baby Cass?
LA:Yeah.
Berly:Not good. I have a feeling next time we see him, it's going to be some fucked up shit. So they have the holy oil. I
LA:like that. Was it Dean at
Berly:first? He's just through a window.
LA:Sam's like, maybe glass.
Berly:I think that Kevin said, or glasses, or glasses, big guy. It's okay. Let's just carry around a window. Okay. Dean is going and getting the glasses ready. Well, then Sam happens to notice that the dad and the baby sis, Margo or Margie or whatever. Margie? They called her
LA:Margie.
Berly:But not Margie. True, but you're close. They see them stomping with their big old guns
LA:zombies the way they were walking
Berly:together. They were determined.
LA:It was just I thought and the way they didn't even
Berly:turn when Sam was behind them talking to them I just thought. They were on a mission.
LA:Yeah I mean jeez.
Berly:I assumed they were drunk. Good. You know what now that we've been drinking get the guns. Let's go hunt that wolf that killed Carl. Yes. That's what I assumed.
LA:I mean that's not dangerous at all. Especially at night.
Berly:So Sam's behind them is like hey what are y'all doing why are y'all out here they're like that was a it's a man eater man eater make it what's the other man eater song oh I was thinking I was thinking of Barracuda by heart I don't know why no I feel like there is another one we'll look it up another time yeah let's get back to the important stuff Sam looked good he had hairy forearms have we ever seen him having hairy forearms I am getting ahead of myself he had his sleeves rolled up he had on a long sleeve button up his sleeves were rolled up but anyways he's marching behind the zombie dad and daughter and he's like let me join you what are y'all doing and they're like guns hello we're gonna go hunt down the man eater wolf he killed my son-in-law and Margo is like yeah like unlike Alice I actually loved him I fucked him once I fucked him that one time in the barn and I'll never forget it so how dare that wolf take him away from me and Sam's like oh my god like let me help you the dad turned around was like what do you know about hunting? Sam's like, I know a little bit, okay? And so they give him a rifle. And so Margo just has a little handgun. So they go storming off into the woods. Sam does not have his glasses. I guess Dean was making the glasses while this was happening. Alright, so we'll let that slide. I like, I think it's so funny how Sam looks so awkward sometimes to me whenever he's just walking or running up the stairs or whatever. But I like him with the gun. The stalking. The stalking. Whenever Sam's stalking somebody. That's confident. Smooth. Strong. Okay. Just a mental note. Mental note I made as he was like stalking through the forest with the gun. I was like, look at that. There's nothing funny about that. The dad and the daughter go walking ahead as Sam cuts through some forest because he heard something and so he's like kind of investigating. And then all of a sudden there's a gun in his face and he looks and he's like, what the fuck? And takes it of moves it out his face and the dad's like where's Margo I mean again so dangerous they're drunk I'm telling you they're drunk he could have blown Sam's head off Sam's like what the fuck man I thought she was with you and then they hear her screaming they turn around go through the woods and find her and sure enough she's laid out and getting attacked by something invisible so the dad is very confused at this point but again he's drunk so he's not putting things together very quickly he's just like what I don't don't understand and Sam's like get back to the house and the guy's like my daughter and he's like no it's too late her throat's been ripped out man like it's too late she's gone yeah Margo's done and it turns out Margo is the one who made the deal for the oil because she thought if their family was rich and didn't have to worry for anything
LA:that
Berly:they would all magically be happy sorry Margo that's not how that worked out so like I mean Carl like shit person bad intentions right but he seemed happy as could be with his deal. And now poor Margo, good intentions, shit deal. She's
LA:like, well, fuck me that that didn't work out
Berly:right. Don't deal with demons, y'all. Just don't deal with demons, man. Anyway, Sam gets the dad back to the house. And it's just like, all right, fuckers. We know one of y'all made deals. Something's right. And they're like, well, Margo. And they're like, no, too bad. I'm locking y'all down.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:Because maybe one of you may another deal. I don't know.
LA:Somebody better fess up.
Berly:You all seemed really infatuated with Crowley. I heard how y'all were talking about him. So I feel like more than one of you made out with him. So we're just gonna go ahead and lock down. Handcuff you to the tables. Because if you start hallucinating some shit whenever they get close, I don't want y'all hurting yourselves, hurting each other. We're locking down. In the meantime, Ellie has just boldly thrown herself at Dean. I loved it. Oh my god!
LA:Because I I mean, before we were like, okay, is she going to hit on these guys? What's going to happen? Because she's beautiful. Cute girl, yeah. But yeah, she just comes out of the darkness to Dean and just shoots her shot.
Berly:Shot her shot. Put her hand on his chest and was like, hey, FYI, I think you're fucking hot. You want to come with me to my room and have sex? I love that that's what she said. I know I exaggerate. I was about to say, I know I exaggerate, but literally that's verbatim. She straight up was like, let's go back to my room. I play some fuck. I was
LA:impressed. Mm-hmm. I was like,
Berly:but it makes sense because like you said, if it's your last night. Last night on earth. Hey. And that's in your yard? Hell yeah. Fuck yeah. I'm going to throw my shot. Yeah. I'd be like, shut your mouth. Get in my room now. You and your brother. Let's go. You don't get a choice. Yeah. I need this. Let's go. I should,
LA:I'm just kidding. I would only, if he consented.
Berly:I'm not. I would have been like, you and your brother. Oh. Let's go. Okay.
LA:Your Eiffel Tower.
Berly:Right? I would love to go to Paris before I die. My last night. Let's go, man. Anyway, Dean is like, uh, no. And she was so embarrassed at first. And he was like, no, like, literally, like, I want to. And she's like, no, you don't. I think she must have thought that he was, like, gay or something like that at first. And he was like, no, no, no, really? I want to. Rain check. And then she goes, sorry, this was a one-night offer. And I immediately figured it out then. Like, oh, it's her. Oh, it's her. her and honestly I'm surprised Dean didn't
LA:well yeah like you said well what was it she said earlier on that we were like how did he not figure oh it was the one night only
Berly:yeah the one night only how did
LA:he not figure it
Berly:out yeah I would think that would have been a dead giveaway
LA:right
Berly:you know the hellhounds are coming you know that something else is going on like I guess they just still were thinking like what could she have possibly gotten out of the deal but you know we find out it was to save her mom but at this point we don't know that hasn't clicked yet so Dean and And Sam are both walking around with glasses on, looking all sexy.
LA:Very different styles.
Berly:Very different styles. I feel like Sam won on the style range, but I thought they both looked good.
LA:I liked Dean's.
Berly:They both looked hot.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:I was digging it.
LA:I think that, didn't Ellie say something? Oh, when she was walking up to him, she was saying she likes the Clark Kent
Berly:look. Mm-hmm. So back in the house, they are locking down the family, putting down the goofer dust, doing all that stuff, threatening them. you know the normal routine about getting these people to do what they want them to do alice manages to get out of her cuffs and takes off running sam goes after her while they're out there they see sam has his glasses on so he sees the hellhound is still stalking the property so it hasn't gotten everybody somebody has still made a deal so sam and alice get back inside in the meantime dean has gone to find ellie and she's in her room dancing by herself To what? What was she listening to? Wasn't it? It's a song about. Yeah, I was about to say it. I knew it was a song about masturbation, but I'm blanking on the song. Did I ever tell you about the masturbation song my mom sang at me and my friend? No, I don't think so. It was my friend in high school, and we were in our living room, and I don't even know if we knew my mom was listening to us or something, but it was either me or my mom or me or my friend. Someone said something about masturbation, and all of a sudden my mom from the next room goes, Masturbation. That's the game we play. First you pull your penis out. Or no. First you pull your pants down. Then you pull your penis out. Out of your pants. Into your hands. Whee!
LA:Oh my god. I love it.
Berly:What's the women's version though? First you pull your pants down. Then you flick your clit. There
LA:you
Berly:go. Out of your pants. Into your what?
LA:Out of your pants. Hand to the...
Berly:Hand to your clit? Yeah. Out of your... I don't know. So audience, let's come up with a masturbation song for women together. Yes. Send us your recommendations. Oh my God, I
LA:love that your mom's saying that. And like, where did she get that? Did you ever ask her? I don't know. I'm going to need you to ask her now.
Berly:I think I have asked her and I don't think she's been able to give me a straight answer. There's no way she just came up with that on the spot. Came. I don't know. We're pretty creative in my family. I was about to say, I feel like I've come up with some whoppers like that on the spot. That you have. It's not like it rhymed. Like, let's not give it too much credit.
LA:I mean, I loved it. I'm going to have to remember that.
Berly:Anyway, Ellie is in there dancing to her own masturbation song because fuck this guy for turning her down. I'm
LA:sorry, but if I got turned down by him and it was my last night, I'd be heading off the property of the farm to go find someone else.
Berly:His brother's right there, right? Oh,
LA:that's true.
Berly:She hasn't tried it
LA:with Sam
Berly:yet. I would have been like, all right, Dean, I hear you. Where's Sam? Yeah. Yeah. Your
LA:last night on earth and you're just going to drink a beer. And dance. And dance in your room to I Touch Myself.
Berly:Right. No.
LA:That would not be my choice.
Berly:Maybe she was more intimidated by Sam and she was like working herself up to going and approaching him. Like she's just gotten rejected by this brother and like she's shaking it off. And like, okay, I'm going to go find the other brother. It's going to be fine. That's what she was doing. That's what she was doing. Getting
LA:the courage
Berly:up. Getting the courage back up. Shaking off the rejection. Okay. To go try it with the other brother now. I
LA:like that.
Berly:Yeah, that's what was going on. Anyway, Dean comes in and is like, what the fuck, man? What are you doing? I don't even think he knocked. No, by the way. He just came in. And he heard the song that was playing. Right. And didn't knock? No. I mean. He just comes in. And that's when Ellie is just like, oh my God. Yay. You changed your mind? Then I felt bad for her again because no, he did not. But you know what? I actually, we actually ended up deciding that this was in Ellie's best interest after all because Ellie finally confesses to Dean what's going on here that she made the deal to save her mom from Parkinson's she doesn't regret it one fucking bit because her mom is living her best life I think she said she was out golfing and all this other stuff yeah don't regret it
LA:she lives in Florida or somewhere golfs every day just living her best life
Berly:yeah doing so good and while her and Dean are talking and Dean's like okay this is like telling her to get in the goofer dust and doing all this other stuff his face starts going crazy and I was like oh my god can you imagine if you were fucking him and that started happening oh no lose your shit right so we decided in the end it's good
LA:yeah
Berly:because that would have been really bad can you imagine like he's going down on you and you look down and those eyes are looking up at you it
LA:was
Berly:I liked the effect of
LA:how
Berly:it was very cool even the way his jaw moved yeah it was awesome but still like no oh hell I would be traumatized right so it was in her best interest
LA:true
Berly:yeah We want her to remember Dean as that pretty face, not like she's
LA:probably never want to have sex again. Oh,
Berly:my God. So he puts her in the goofer dust, tells her stay here. I love that they had the goofer dust. I love that they brought that back. The then stuff at the front at the beginning was really fun. Getting to see all that stuff from like seasons three. I mean, I want to say that was way back. It was cool. It was a nice little throwback this episode. Dean puts his glasses on and goes outside. Sure enough, the fucking hellhound is there. It's coming for Ellie. It like slashes Dean. Where did it get him? I couldn't
LA:figure. Like
Berly:on his side? Yeah. Gets Dean on his side. Like he flies over and he loses the knife. He's got the demon knife. That's what he was planning to do. Whenever he got slashed, he dropped it. So he's up against the wall. Doesn't have shit. Thank God Sam had come to check on him. Had the gun. Shot the hellhound a few times. Did this like roll thing. Grabbed the knife. And then just like fucking cut it like throat to sternum I think. I
LA:was going to say I really liked how they like you mentioned how you liked that the hounds were still somewhat invisible.
Berly:Like we could see them but we couldn't. Yeah.
LA:But the effect when it was like chomping in Sam's face and then you saw you could see like the red eyes and the teeth but it still had that like like clear invisible
Berly:like almost steam like almost. Yeah. Yeah. Like something like that where it's like you can see it but you can still see through it. Yeah.
LA:I really liked how they did that
Berly:I did too and I was worried whenever they had the glasses and stuff that it was going to be something that was going to ruin hellhounds for me cheesy yeah but this they didn't they did good they did good
LA:and just that that vision of like coming at Sam's coming at Sam's face
Berly:I would come at Sam's face I would come on Sam's face but then and then what he does is like oh my god yeah like he just I feel like he stabbed her slashed her or something but I don't know but then I was not expecting whenever he just went and like slid it down and then it just like gushed out all over him and it's like I can't even I can't call that a splooge it just like I think that was the most amount of blood and a killing on the show yeah it was a lot yeah just gushed out on him and Dean's just sitting there being like motherfucker he's like this fucking guy this fucking we talked about your tunnel a lot look at you you just closed your tunnel
LA:I love how afterwards Dean's just like okay fine we'll just find another hell and I'll kill it this time
Berly:yeah like oh okay because it was so easy this time right yeah and Dean's like trying to say the spell trying to just do it and Sam's like it's not gonna work for you it's not gonna work for you so here's the thing so Sam finally takes the spell he says the spell he does the Enochian thing like flaxseed oil and grapeseed and all that other stuff and then what did Sam's hand do like what I still don't understand that yeah like he falls over he's clearly in a lot of pain It seemed like there was like balls of light. Well, at first it seemed like it hit his head. Like there was pain in his head, but then he
LA:like fell down and then it was his
Berly:hand. And I liked that we could like see his veins and like all that. So that was cool. But it was like, it seemed like it was like a ball of light, like traveling up his hair, his hairy, thick forearm, his thick, hairy forearm. It like went up it. Like, what was that? I
LA:don't know. And it didn't go all the way up either. So it's like,
Berly:well, I think it did. Didn't it? I thought his sleeve was there his sleeve was there so it like cut it off so we didn't get to see the light go all the way up because he only rolled his sleeve up like it was like his sleeve was rolled up but not all the way up what was this what was this the outsiders he wasn't he wasn't like the outsiders with his like sleeve rolled up to here he just had it
LA:with the cigarettes
Berly:it was this long sleeve shirt and it was just rolled up to his elbow I think so I think that's why it cut off there but it was yeah it was like a ball of light yeah but then where did it go did it go to his shoulder did you see how did it go all the way to his neck did you see his furry hair his hair when they get all hairy when did they get so hairy I only saw it and noticed it because you kept mentioning it I don't know I don't understand what happened but apparently that means trial one complete yep check Sam Winchester so does that mean he has to do all of them I guess so because that's what they were saying they were making it seem like that means he has to do all of them right and whenever we saw them afterwards where Sam's like cleaned up but he is not cleaned up because his shirt is still covered in blood and black black
LA:blood
Berly:yeah when that shot came on i was like good god yeah you were like change your
LA:shirt
Berly:i was like just take it off
LA:yeah
Berly:thank you why are you sitting there in that bloody shirt take it off sam and dean are hanging out in ellie's room and dean is just like we're gonna give you a hex bag and you're just gonna run you're just gonna run for the rest of your life you're not you're not a life you're not gonna get attacked by a hellhound on my watch and i was like i mean technically it won't be on his watch because he's just giving her a hex bag and sending her on our way. Yeah, good luck.
LA:Don't lose that bag. Right?
Berly:Bye-bye, Ellie. So, yeah, we'll see. I imagine Crowley's gonna come collect whatever. I don't think we're gonna see Ellie again. Long story short. They're just giving her, they're just trying to give her a positive outlook.
LA:They're just lying to her to give her some hope.
Berly:They're like, we're gonna give you a hex bag. Go find you some dick. Go, like, get it. Get it,
LA:girl.
Berly:Get it, get it, get it, get it, get it. Because, yeah. Get it fast. Right
LA:after this.
Berly:Because this hellhound's not going to get you on my watch, but I'm not going to be watching you for much longer. Yeah. You're on your own. That's your first mission. Good luck. Yeah. And Sam and Dean are just kind of mad at each other because Sam's like, I'm doing it. I'm doing the trials. Yeah. I see the light at the end of my tunnel, and I'm going to be fine.
LA:We're going to get through it. We're going to do it.
Berly:No one's going to die.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:It's going to be all good. And Dean is just like,
LA:mm. He really does see the light at the end of that tunnel.
Berly:Mm. Dean doesn't, though. Mm. Dean's like, my tunnel is shit. clenched tight. Not anymore. Dean's tunnel is open? Yeah, because he's not doing the three tests. Oh, but he doesn't see the light. I mean, he doesn't now. But Sam's seeing it for him. This was written by Andrew Dobb and directed by Kevin Parks. And this is the first episode directed by Kevin Parks. Gore. I mean, obviously the goriest thing was the hellhound. Yeah. Oh my god. Yikes. Black. All that black blood. I wonder what that was. I know, me too. I was just gonna say. It's like ink. It seemed like there were some chunks to it a little bit. Really? Like organs maybe? I don't know. I'll have to go watch it again. But yeah, not a splooge. But we did get a splooge.
LA:Oh yeah, Carl's face.
Berly:We got Carl's face as a splooge. But that was his blood. Yeah. That was red. But I would say the hellhound was definitely like, ew,
LA:damn. Yeah, by far.
Berly:Did you adore anything about this episode? There's a lot of bad people.
LA:I know. I was going to say, this is really sad, but I love the farm, the grounds that they were on. It was so pretty. I mean, it was like the landscaping was so beautifully manicured. It was
Berly:a gorgeous location. I
LA:mean, I loved that. I was
Berly:like, I love to be there. It was pretty.
LA:Without the hellhounds in that
Berly:van. Like Airbnb. Like, yeah.
LA:Yeah.
Berly:The hellhound special effects. Oh, I did. Yes. Yes. You enjoyed that. I enjoyed that. The glasses. The datification that we're starting to notice that like, It happened at some point, but I'm just like, when did it start happening? I was thinking data. No, not data. The datafication. Gotcha. Yeah. Appreciating it. I feel good about it. You know? Yeah. Like in season one, season two, when we'd make sexual commentary about him, it was like, I'm a little young. Yeah. Now I'm like, I don't feel bad. I don't feel bad at all. What about the lore? Well, it may...
LA:surprise everybody but we're going to talk about hellhounds oh and we're actually going to use from season 3 episode 16 the lore on hellhounds it says from what i read terrifying tales of hellhounds are ferocious dogs eyes glowing teeth bared they
Berly:wreak vengeance on the population around them and have been the stuff of legend for centuries it has has cemented the place of these mythical beasts in English folklore, but how and why have these accounts of these terrifying marauding of their terrifying marauding spread so far and wide? That word's not used enough. I agree. Marauding? When I was reading through this, I was like, oh, that's such a good one. Yeah. I don't know a lot of words, though. My vocabulary. But as far as actually using the words I know, I'm not good at about that. It's funny. I can use fancier words than I do, but I don't. Right. I just use fuck and shit and balls. Of course, yeah. It's funny because like spelling and
LA:everything was one of my best things in school. Even as I've gotten older, it's like, I know so many, I know all these words, but then I've thought to myself, if somebody asked me to give a definition of it, I would be a mess. Like, I could give it to you in a sentence,
Berly:but I don't know that I could give you an actual definition. Yeah, same. You know? Like, Define marauder right now.
LA:Right. I don't think I could, but I could give it to you in a sentence and I know what it means. What a failure of our education. No, I'm
Berly:just kidding.
Unknown:Okay.
Berly:Now, in 1577, according to one particularly poetic account, a snarling beast broke into a church, rampaged through the congregation, and bit the necks of two people who promptly dropped dead. Having traumatized the churchgoers in Bungay in Suffolk, the mystical dog known as Black
LA:Suck. What? What? It's S-H-U-K. I'm sorry. S-H-U-C-K. Shuck? Shuck. Shuck? What did I say? Suck?
Unknown:Suck.
LA:Alright, well. Black Shuck. Next cropped up on the country's
Berly:coast at Blytheboro. Again, it targeted worshippers bursting through the doors of the Holy Trinity Church before killing a man and a boy and causing the steeple to collapse. The beast left scorched marks on the church door according to the legend. These claw marks are on the north door of the Holy Trinity Church and supposedly they are still there to this day. Damn. Stories speak of Lonely pets pining for dead masters and packs of hounds led in wild hunts by men on horseback. Hellhounds were reported to appear at the 17th century witch trials. But not all accounts of
LA:black shuck. Sure. Right? Yep. That's what we said, right? Shuck? Not suck? Not today. Shuck. But not all accounts of black shuck depict the beast as a ferocious predator. Hold on. I need to adjust. Thank you. Thank you,
Berly:Ella. In Littleport in Cambridgeshire, a shadowy canine is said to have turned protector, rescuing a local girl from an attempted rape by a friar. According to legend, the dog died in the struggle and its ghost was left to wander through the countryside. Now, there are similar stories of Black Dog under other names along the east coast of England. Norwich-based Mr. Stone, who began the interactive mapping project in August to map out where all these stories were located. It's part of the public archaeology, and he started it in 2015 and said, living in Norfolk, it's probably the most prevailing piece of kids' scary folklore. While the stories largely spread through, of course, word of mouth, the earliest written record of the Hellhound is found in the 11th and 12th century Peterborough version of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle.
LA:The
Berly:chronicler wrote
LA:that reliable,
Berly:it
LA:says in quotations, reliable witnesses had seen packs of dogs, again in quotes, jet black, with eyes like saucers and horrible eyes. led in a, quotes
Berly:again, wild hunt by men on horseback, traveling through the woods, stretching between Peterborough and Stamford. Lorna Richardson, a researcher in public archaeology at the University of Umeå in Sweden, that's probably said wrong, said folklore was often overlooked when assessing the importance of a landscape or place. There are lots of different takes on this dog and legend, as Nick's map has shown, but it spreads in And so this other article I thought was kind of interesting that a London-based archaeology group unearthed the bones of a gigantic dog from a shallow grave about 20 inches deep in the ruins of Leaston Abbey in Suffolk. And archaeologists estimate that the canine stood more than seven feet tall on its hind legs. Damn. It's bigger than Jared Padalecki. It is. And weighed about 200 pounds. It was led by Dig Advent. I'm sorry. DigVentures researchers believe the canine bones likely date to when the abbey was active, so are likely medieval, but they're awaiting confirmation from testing.
LA:Due
Berly:to the size and date of the bones, many have speculated that these large canine remains could be connected to the legend of Black Shuck. In legend, devil dogs guard the entrance of the underworld and the grounds of graveyards. They also hunt lost souls and protect a supernatural treasure. Supernatural. I know. Do your thing. and Black Shuck in England. Most recently, hellhounds were used in fiction in The Hound of the Baskervilles. That's Sherlock. Right. The Grimm in the Harry Potter series and in movies like The Omen and Cujo. Though musing about the earthly remains of legendary creature cryptid is always fun, they say this giant skeleton recently found at least in Abbey is likely the remains of an abbot's faithful canine companion or a hunting dog. Uh, At best, the sightings of this huge domesticated dog by superstitious people may have sparked the rumors about Black Shuck. I'm sorry. I don't know any dog that stands seven feet tall. Seven feet. Yeah. Like maybe in length if you're trying to make it more believable. But seven feet tall? No. But I thought it was saying like if it's on its hind legs. So I think it did mean length. Oh, you're
LA:right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Berly:Yeah. Oh,
LA:okay, okay.
Berly:Well. Still. Still. That's still insane. Yeah. Seven feet?
Unknown:Mm-mm.
Berly:Mm-mm. I don't like it. I don't want
LA:to meet that dog.
Berly:Mm-mm. And I love dogs. Yeah. About to close it out. It's from Dean Winchester. He was talking to Kevin. He said, hey, if you come across anything on hellhounds, drop a dime. Because between the claws, the teeth, and the invisibility, those bitches can be real... bitches.
Unknown:Mm-mm.
Berly:Cheers. Thank you for listening to Denim Wrapped Nightmares. Follow us on Twitter or Instagram. Leave a review and let us know how we can get involved in the fandom. This was fun. Jerk. It always is, bitch.
