Denim-wrapped Nightmares, a Supernatural podcast
Join SPN family newcomers, Berly and LA, as they explore the TV series, Supernatural, episode by episode. Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
As a way to keep in touch during the 2020 pandemic, Berly and LA started podcasting with their debut, anything-goes talk show, The Tipsy Exchange. During those discussions, Berly and LA realized that they most enjoy talking humorously about TV/Film, mythology, suspense, and hot guys. Supernatural seemed a natural fit. It's a match made in heaven... or hell... you decide!
Now, let's get tipsy! CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞
Denim-wrapped Nightmares, a Supernatural podcast
The Slice Girls (7x13)
Berly and LA recap the season seven Supernatural episode, The Slice Girls. Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures. Now, let's get tipsy! CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞
Summary: In the episode "The Slice Girls," Sam and Dean investigate a series of murders where men are killed and their body parts used in a ritualistic manner. They discover the killers are descendants of a group of Amazonian women who have been transformed into monsters. The women target successful men, believing they are the spawn of patricide. The episode features intense scenes, including a gruesome murder and a talking toddler. Sam and Dean face challenges in their investigation, with Sam showing increased irritation and Dean struggling with personal demons. The episode ends with Sam killing one of the women and Dean confronting Moira Rose.
Resources:
- https://supernatural.fandom.com/wiki/The_Slice_Girls
- https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/mar/24/truth-behind-the-myths-amazon-warrior-women-of-greek-legend-may-really-have-existed
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Ella, welcome to denim wrapped nightmares, Tipsy exchange Podcast where we explore the supernatural series, episode by episode,
LA:over drinks, we'll discuss the lore the gore and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
Berly:I'm Burleigh, and I'm a new fan of the series. I'm
LA:LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get Tipsy. Hello, LA, hey, Burley,
Berly:hi.
LA:Well, last episode was a shit show for us.
Berly:We had a hoot, though we had a hoot, but
LA:the episode was titled, time after time, Sam and Dean tangled with the God of Time. Guest star Jason Doering.
Berly:Jason Doering, or darling Oh, who
LA:sends Dean back to 1944 where he is immediately arrested by none other than the one and only, Eliot Ness. Guest Star Nicholas Lee lay, Yeah, who knows Nicholas
Berly:can lay me with his pocket treasures? Pocket treasure?
Unknown:No, it's taking a turn. Oh, no, this is not where I wanted this to go.
LA:Well, pocket treasures aside while they were trying to figure out how to retrieve his brother, Sam is surprised by the reappearance of an old friend, Miss, Miss Jody Mills, Sheriff Jody Mills,
Berly:I liked her cameo. And I don't even call it a cameo. I liked her in that. I
LA:did too. Like I said in the our show of an episode, I need some more. I need some more. Jody,
Berly:Mm hmm. I enjoyed it. Well. Today's episode is titled The slice girls. It's the 13th episode of season seven, and originally aired on February 3, 2012 The episode opens up with a it's fantastic, banger. Oh my god, I was not prepared,
LA:which I have to say. So from last episode, I and seeing, like, the recap and everything for this episode, and then the start, I was like, Oh, that, that last episode, time of time, that was just kind of like a fun episode. They threw in there, you know, like, yeah, timeline wise, I was like, Oh, we're getting back on track with this one or so. I thought, Yeah. I
Berly:thought there was gonna be leviathans or something, right, right, yeah. Where's dick? Get some dick, just
LA:like the way he loves a muffin, the recap and the start, I was like, Oh, here we go. Yeah, back in the game, yeah. But no, that didn't really happen for me.
Berly:Same, same. Like, we got our 54th blood splooge of the supernatural series, and we haven't had a blood splooge since episode eight, like it's been a while. This is episode 13. Well, they made made up for it. Oh, my God, it was an intense blood splooge moment. I mean, that we got probably the best part of the this wasn't my favorite blood splooge moment of the episode. My favorite blood splooge moment was the other blood splooge moment that comes, but we'll get there, right, right? But this one starts off with a gentleman. He's in a fantastic loft, Mm hmm. He's got some questionable taste in art, but we won't hold it against him. I still maintain I think he was a podiatrist or he just he's got a foot fetish. Maybe that's true, maybe, who knows, but he's still working. It's after hours. It's raining outside. He makes himself like a nice little hot hot tea, a little hot beverage, gets settled, then he realizes something's not right. Well, he
LA:didn't he he heard something, and he was like, is that you Barb? But it wasn't Barb. It was
Berly:not Barb. Whoever the director is, I didn't clock it while we were watching the episodes. We'll have to see they really liked the really tight close ups. Yeah, right of the eyes, there were quite a few in the first half of the episode, not so many in the second half of the episode, right? Just quiet. And the director does this really tight zoom in on his face. And Ellie and I were both like, what is happening? And then he just goes flying, face plants up against a wall, yeah, horizontally, like he's horizontally in the air, slams into one of his foot fetish posters and just gets swung on the wall. Then he's screaming. And we get our blood splooge that we were just talking about. I mean, we get a few, honestly, one after the other. Yeah, I only counted it as one, because that's what we've been doing whenever it's multiple splooges within a single scene. So I'm only counting it as one, but it was like, splooge, Sploosh, yeah, splooch. And he's just like, Ah,
LA:you see the and, like, I said, I thought it was a machete, which I was like, oh, okay, that makes sense. He's so bloody and sliced up, yeah, but no, it's just a big old knife, big old fancy knife. It
Berly:was real shiny. It's obviously very sharp. And then we see that, like him, like making his face, and it's like, this carving going on. And then they pull out, his shirt is pulled open, and there's this intricate little carving on his chest, carved real deep. Well, yeah, it was well done. Was it was pretty or, I
LA:mean, I think Good job. Good for him, for staying still, yeah, because he was still alive. And as they
Berly:zoom out, then we realize he doesn't have hands or feet anymore. More,
LA:yeah, it took me a second. I was like, why did he slit his wrists? And then I was like, Wait a minute.
Berly:Where are his hands? Yeah, no feet, no hands, and he's just like. And I was like, supernatural, wow.
LA:It was jarring.
Berly:I was like, and I was like, you? I was like, let's go, right, let's go, yeah, here
LA:we go. Here we go, back in the game.
Berly:And then they let us down. Yeah, yeah. They let us down a little bit. I mean, it wasn't a terrible episode, but just Yeah. But that intro, man, I was like, Yeah. And I was like, Oh yeah, babies, not for long. Okay, so we cut to Sam driving. I feel like we seen Sam driving quite a bit lately. He's taking control. Sam is driving the Impala. Dean wakes up from his nap and immediately goes to take a swig from his flask. And Sam is just like, Um, can you cool it? He said it was Bobby's it's memento. It's sentimental, it's special. Sam says most people would carry, like, a picture, yeah, you know, something like that. Oh, yeah. But okay, sure you you cling to the old rusty flask and wake up drink. And Sam's getting very irritated throughout this episode. And then at the end of the episode, he's like, I don't care how you deal with it. Um, obviously you do, Sam, yeah, you got a real bug up your butt. Yeah. Sam is trying to say, Okay, we have this case. It's in Seattle. These four men have been killed in like, two weeks. We should go check it out. Dean's like, I haven't even read the article, whatever. But then they agree, like, No, we we need to keep busy. We need to keep working cases. We can't just focus purely on Dick all the time. We should go check this out. So they go to Seattle and they look at the latest victim's body, just the guy that we saw at the beginning, and the coroner adorable. Oh my god, so cute. But this is cute, little curly, oh yes. I thought he was going to be way more important in the episode. I
LA:wanted him to be.
Berly:I did too. I wanted him to be, like, aware of what was happening and trying to help Sam and Dean like I wanted him to be an ally in the right I wonder if there's like, a deleted scene or something. Maybe because they just seemed like he was getting played up to be something like a missing piece. Somehow, I thought he was the bad guy. At first, you did. I was real, real convinced about it, but
LA:whenever he didn't,
Berly:he wasn't the bad guy, and he was actually trying to be helpful or whatever. I was like, Oh, he knows. And that didn't come to fruition. Yeah. So they are talking with Eddie, this is the coroner, and he is explaining that they did find DNA at this scene, as well as at one of the other scenes, one of the other scenes, the victim apparently had actually bit whoever attacked them and had like flesh in their mouth. And not only have they not gotten a DNA match with anybody in the system, but the DNA they're looking at doesn't even appear to be human. So it's like, what? And then 11 They're leaving. Dean was like, Yeah, I mean, I guess, okay, like he's finally caving, because originally he was saying, like, I don't see how this is our thing. Like, this is just busy work. We shouldn't be messing with this. And Sam was like, listen, we can't do all Dick all day. And that's when Dean was like, Okay, fine. Guess this is up our alley, yeah? But then Yeah, whenever you found out, okay, it goes. And Sam was like, Yeah, you think not human tends to be up our alley. And this is just the beginning of Sam getting pissy, yeah. It only escalates throughout the episode. I don't know what's going on there, even though Dean agrees now that, okay, yeah, sure, this is something that might be up our alley. Sam says, Okay, so let's go back to the motel and we're going to research this, this and this. And Dean's like, I have all the faith in you that you're going to be productive with that. I am going to go and talk to the locals and see what additional information I am able to get out from mingling, I'm gonna go mingle. And Sam says, Oh, so you're gonna go to a bar. And Dean was like, Don't put it like that, I mean, but yeah, but yeah. So Dean goes to this bar called the cobalt boujee. Boujee, not the kind of spot I'd expect Dean to go to.
LA:This is a classy town.
Berly:It's Seattle. Oh, is it? Oh, they have hole in the walls, just not, not the place I would expect needing to go to. But he did have on a suit, you know, maybe he felt like continuing role playing for the night. He missed Elliot. Oh, is that what it was? I don't think Elliot would go somewhere that bougie, either. Elliot Ness. You think he'd go to the cobalt room? Yeah, he did not have on the three piece suit, and he has a point. And we know he has it still. Yeah, you know he kept that. Of course he did. Whenever we first see Dean at the cobalt room, he's already talking with a young lady. We do not see him. Pick this lady up. They are already off to the side, deep in conversation, and we get more of the tight close ups on eyes and mouths. Yes, yeah, lots of tight close ups going on here. And so I understood what they were doing here, though, chemistry, getting some chemistry. We're getting some sexy time coming up here. They're just bullshitting. And he does insinuate that he's like in finance or something like that. I can't remember the hours and blah blah, but the benefits are great, yada yada. And she's says, I. Do you want to move this somewhere more private than we move this to my place? I will say I did love this about the episode. So she takes him to her place, and we have a DCC, AC, DC, shook me all night long, coming in as the background music, which we are not getting enough of the music anymore. That's true. Yeah, like we don't, we don't get as much of it as we used to, which I'm sure that the laws and all that other stuff changed, but it was the perfect song for it. So they come in to her front door. They're already making out. They're already pulling at each other's clothing. We're cutting back and forth between this scene and a gentleman at his home, and he's sitting down, he's watching TV, having a bite to eat. And he hears the doorbell ring, and he goes and answers the door. And he seems like it's nice as could be, like, hey. Like, how can I help you? Like, very kind. He goes flying up against a wall as well his artwork too. Yeah, you were like, whoever it is really likes throwing them into their artwork, yeah. And we are cutting back and forth between the sex scenes. So getting the blood splooge and then cutting immediately to a sex scene. I was just like, that's funny, well, but
LA:in like, like you pointed out, like, this
Berly:is not the splooge you were
Unknown:looking for. They're rolling in the bed. He's
Berly:rolling on the ground. It was, it was fun. It was so fun. She needed to move some of the time. Yeah, get out the way. Yeah. You're gorgeous. You're beautiful. But like, move, yeah, but yeah. We finally got some skin. We were excited about the forearms in the last episode, so it was nice. We got some naps all that tat. Got some biceps when he was taking
LA:his pants down. I
Berly:was like, Oh yeah,
LA:he kept the boxers on.
Berly:I'm like, where are the close up shots now, Mr. Director, right? Why aren't we zooming in? Let me see some. Oh, it was nice cutting back and forth. And then I love like, it's showing the guy, like, showing, like, the coroner pictures and like, the snaps of the dead crime scene as they're like, wrapping up and Dean's just like, laying there,
Unknown:like, oh, satisfied, yeah, satiated, yeah. He sploog.
Berly:Well, yes, he certainly. We had the splooge in both the scenes. Splooge in the splooge. So it was a double splooge, but we're only counting one of them for the blood splooge, right? Lydia
LA:got the other one.
Berly:Oh, my God, I think this is so funny. So the little summary that I reference in case I forget where I'm at in the episode, it's talking about Dean and Lydia at the cobalt room, and it says he tells her that he's a successful investment banker and that he can speak Japanese. She seems impressed, and they head back to her house and have sex. It was the Japanese that did it. We're at the crime scene. Eddie's there, and that's whenever I was like, Oh, he did it. Yeah, he did it. When do we ever see the coroner more than once? When do we ever see the coroner outside of the morgue? Right? He did it. He did it. And I can't remember exactly what he said. I didn't write it down, but he even said something about, like, yeah, like a real monster must have done this. And I was like, Oh, that's right, he
Unknown:did it.
Berly:It wasn't sweet Eddie. Eddie had, like, the curly he was making me think of, like the outsiders, like with his curls, his perfect little curls.
LA:And then he like, later, I mean, I'm jumping ahead, but like he kind of like saves, or saves Sam from the detective.
Berly:I wish they had done that case. I wish they had done more with him, like with him, somehow being with him, somehow being in the know that they were connected somehow, and that he was trying to he knew Sam and Dean were there to help, yeah, you know, or something. I don't know he was just adorable. Yeah, I don't know what that I don't know what the answer would have been, there to include him more. But I wish that I'm not a writer. That's not my job to figure out. So they're finding out that this latest victim is apparently like the nicest guy a neighbor comes by, and it's just like he was the absolute nicest guy. The only person who I know would have been mad at him is maybe his wife, because he did have, like, a one night stand. He did cheat on her just a few days ago.
Unknown:Maybe not so nice, right?
Berly:Maybe not the greatest guy, but they were like, the there's no way the wife would have done something like this, even though she's pissed. When they said, okay, yeah, and there's no way she would have been able to throw him around the room, as as evidenced by all the carnage here, either as they leave the scene, Dean realizes that he doesn't have Bobby's flask anymore, right? He's like, Oh, I must have left it at Lydia's line. Sam was like, Oh my God, you know her name. It's really impressive, really proud of you, Dean, that you know her name. Oh my God, you have her number. And Dean was just like, yeah, they always give you their number. Or me. So me, they always give me their number. So he calls Lydia, and she's being really short on the phone with Dean, while he's trying to tell her, Hey, accidentally left this over there. Do you have it? And she's just like, I'm busy the
LA:reveal of this too. Like she's just standing in the window. You just see her from like, her four. I'm up and she's just wanting to get off the phone with this man not interested. And
Berly:the way she was looking around was making me think, is there somebody else in the room with her? Like it definitely I did not see the reveal coming me either. What was happening was not what I would have guessed. No. But clearly does not want to talk to Dean. It's just like, I have your number. I'll call you if I find it by hangs up the phone with him, and then they zoom out, and she pregnant, like, ready to pop pregnant, yeah. I was like, oh my god, the stretch marks. Yeah, that that quickly, in that short of time, it's
LA:been like, 12 hours,
Berly:probably, yeah, huge. Oh my
LA:goodness. And then the birthing, the ritual. I mean, it seemed like a ritual to me. I wrote down that it was like a ritual birthing well, and
Berly:I noticed at the end of the birthing that the woman was like, next. I was like, oh my god, this
LA:is the assembly line. Yeah, yeah, bring him in. I was
Berly:like, Who is? And this the woman I in my mind, I just kept calling her Moira rose, because we never found out who she was. So it was like the Teemu Moira rose just being like, the pain is an honor. Give birth to your baby. She's like, have your baby, yeah.
Unknown:The pain is an honor. The pain is an honor. You're not the one doing it next.
Berly:Like, what is happening, yeah. And I loved that. Whenever Sam was in the background and he heard Dean, like, getting blown off, he was, he was tickled by that.
LA:Oh, he was loving, yeah. I mean, he was like, loving, like, Dean getting embarrassed, and like, not getting what he wants. He usually gets, but then later he's like, pissed, just as pissed at him for, like, how it all played out.
Berly:Oh, my God, it was so funny. Moira rose got to name the baby too. They were like, what will we call it? She was like, we will call it Emma. Okay. Moira Rose is naming the baby, not the mom. No, it's an IT, it. Yeah, that's
LA:another thing that I was like, oh, what's going on here?
Berly:What would we call it? What
LA:are we gonna call the next one? I
Berly:don't know. We didn't get to see the next one. We just know that there. We see him later. We just know there was a next right?
LA:It was all women, right, and everything. Yeah, okay, that's what I thought.
Berly:Because they kill the men. They kill any men who are right. Okay, it's tradition. They're just keeping tradition. Yeah? I mean, Sam and Dean go to a university to go see this professor, Morrison, who cracked me up. Yeah, I liked him. He was he was fun, and he's in the anthropology department. Sam and Dean are having to outsource this stuff. They're having to go find other experts, which I remember them doing in the beginning, like in season one, before we met Bobby. Yeah, they went to professors here, to that there, to the there was like a librarian that helped them research stuff. Well,
LA:maybe Bobby was out hunting at that time. Couldn't right, reach his files.
Berly:Well, as they just got way dependent on Bobby. Yeah, once they started leaning on him, they started leaning on him for everything. Now they're having to go back to old methods right now. It's more work. But my point is, they've done this before. True. Y'all are acting like you've never done that. I remember an adorable librarian. Well,
LA:maybe they're just, it's just like another Santa, Bobby's gone, so that most like, kind of sucks that they have to do it double time.
Berly:They even say that. They even say, like, we're having like he's not Bobby. We know he's not Bobby, right? Because they comment on how it's really difficult working with this person who doesn't believe that what we're going after is real. They're going to be limited in what they can offer us because of that. So which makes sense. That makes sense just saying, they've done this before. They've gone to professors, they've gone to librarians, they've gone to other things before.
LA:They were spoiled, Bobby spoiled. They
Berly:were, yeah, they were. They said they have to settle. We have to settle for what we can Yeah, settle for what we can find. But I thought this professor was so funny. He was constantly like, what am I going to get out of it? No, oh yeah, my house cleaner needs a green card. Help me. Help me. They tell this professor that they need help figuring out what this carving is right on the chest. And he was like, Oh yeah, it's beautiful. It's wonderful. But I've spent entire sabbaticals looking up stuff like this, and they said, no, like, Your country needs you, like this is a serial killer. We need you to get on it. After this, Dean decides he's gonna go get that flask. Lydia has not called him back yet. How dare she? He's
LA:probably hoping he can get that flask, and that ass double tap not happening, though. No,
Berly:no. You called him dawn. She's like, Oh, Hi, Dawn. And he was like, Dean, yeah. It was pretty funny. And then the other thing she said was like, oh yeah. I found the flask. It was so beat up and dirty I almost threw it away. And he was like, um, or no, dented and old. He was like, Yeah, well, the person who owned it was also dented and old, and it's really important to me, so I would like it please. And she was like, Yeah, okay, come in. He comes in, and suddenly there's a crib and a toddler in her bedroom. And he's just like, Oh, are you, are you babysitting or something? She's like, No. And Dean goes in, and it's like, hi, and being really cute, talking to the. Kid, like, okay, and then Sam calls him, So Dean steps out of the room,
LA:which I was already disturbed, because I'm like, okay, she just had a baby. Why is there even when the toddler here, you know,
Berly:the baby was born, you went, that ain't no newborn. I was like, that was a big newborn baby. It didn't bother me because, like, it's not like newborns are just available to come be filmed and being held, whatever. But then, yeah, then we see the toddler, and I
LA:was like, what? Yeah, standing up. I'm like, wait a minute. Sometimes, like, something's not right. I mean, we already knew that, but
Berly:it's really not right now. And he does get the flashback. I don't know if I said that. It's important to say that he got the flashback. Sam calls him, and he's on the phone, and he steps out of the room, and I don't even remember what Sam tells him. He like, tells him, like, we need to go to the back, to the corner, or something. I don't remember what, but that's not what's important here. What's important is that Dean starts hearing a conversation from the other room, and he's just like, hang on Sam, and leads over and distinctly hears the baby say, like, Who is that man? Yeah,
LA:and Lydia is like, hang on. Oh, okay. This is the
Unknown:baby boy. This is the female male. Who is that man, Mommy?
LA:Oh, my God, get him out of here.
Unknown:I don't know. I think I want him to stay. Oh, he's beautiful, her daddy. I'm very proud of my genealogy. Look at that. You did good, mom. You right?
Berly:As soon as Dean is like, oh my god, this is a talking baby toddler. What was the baby in Roger Rabbit. Roger Rabbit, the baby with the cigar?
LA:Oh, yeah, I could not tell you.
Berly:Well, it was like that, except this was a baby girl, right? That's the important thing that happens at Lydia's house. So Dean does not leave. Dean is just like, No, this is doing a stakeout. Yeah? He decides, like, talking, baby, I'm staying. Yeah,
LA:something's not right here.
Berly:I gotta figure this shit out. And sure enough, he is correct. Moyra Rose and her crew show up at the house, and they go to the door, knock and knock, a knock. Is Emma ready? And Lydia is like, Yep, she is. Here's her little suitcase. And shoves out five, six year old kid. And they're just like, hey, Emma, let's go. And Dean can apparently hear them calling the kid Emma, somehow, even though he had to use binoculars to secret, right? I don't know. I don't know if Frank gave him some sort of secret technology. Did Frank like out, like, fit out the Impala, which, they're driving the Impala again, but they aren't staying in motels anymore. Yeah. I
LA:was like, Wouldn't it was the Impala, right? We're not gonna address that. We got it back.
Berly:I thought about that. That was the Impala, right? Yeah, okay, but we can't, but we can't use our credit cards still,
Unknown:I don't know. Man,
Berly:he hears, He hears it somehow, and just goes, Oh, it's weird. It was really, that's real weird. I don't know about this. While this is happening, Sam is examining the latest victim, Mr. Nice guy who cheated on his wife, yeah. And while he's there, this blonde woman who was also on the scene comes out, and she's like, um, why is the FBI here? And that's when Eddie comes in, yeah, like LA was talking about earlier, and he starts saying, like, oh, well, it's probably all the cold case files that are very similar, that are from other states, since across state lines. And that's when we thought, oh, Eddie knows what's going on, and he's trying to help. Yeah, somehow, this is basically the last time we see Eddie. And I wish we had gotten Eddie more,
LA:yeah, it was mostly just to be like, Oh, you get used to her, like she's just nobody likes her. Yeah, she's unlikable.
Berly:I don't like her. Yeah, it turned out to just be, probably misogyny, unfortunately, in the end, yeah, but she was, she was on the bad side. She was with the bad people. She was part of Moira Rose's troop of Amazonian women. That should be a band. Moira Rose's troop of Amazonian women. Too long. You're too long. Oh, I forgot Dean made, uh, in the last episode, he did something like that, where he got called something, and was like, You're a something, so damn, like, I do all the time. Yeah, I can't remember what it was. Eddie, fortunately has the cold cases, like copies of the files, so he shares those with Sam, and that's when they kind of figure out that this is happening in multiple cities, that it happens, like, essentially every two years. Yeah, I
LA:think it was like, Chicago, Miami.
Berly:As they continue talking, Sam is going through these files. He sees the cobalt room, the cobalt room, the cobalt room. And Eddie is like, yeah, like, that's where the victims are going, and then hooking up, and then a couple of days later, they're getting killed. And Sam's. Just put two and two together that Dean might be in trouble, but Dean is watching this house, so he doesn't care to talk to Sam at this time.
LA:Well, I think he fall, doesn't? He follow them to some alleyway and they go into the building,
Berly:yeah, then he meets up with Sam, right? They're talking about what they've each discovered separately. Dean about his seeing the baby talking and all of this, and Sam telling him what he's found out from the corner, and going through the files. And then, like, papers move. And this is a whole big thing, because Dean is like, the papers moved, I didn't touch them. And Sam is just like, Oh my God. Are you serious? And he goes, and he gets the EMF detector out, and it's just like, oh my god, it's red. It's red, it's red. And then he turns into a total little cunt. And it's like because we're near power lines and the window is open and there's a breeze coming in here. You dumb ass, you stupid. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, this turns into Bobby's gone. Am I missing that? They've been insinuating that Bobby is still around as a ghost. No, I think it was because this is the first time I'm picking up on that. I
LA:think it was Dean saying that about because they have all, all the boxes and paper, like his files that he had. So I think that's where he's getting it. Really. He's like, Well, maybe
Unknown:it's Bobby, yeah, we've
LA:got his stuff. Just
Berly:the way Sam reacted, though, made me feel like this is not the first time this has come up, yeah? The aggression behind it of, like, No, it's not him. We just want it to be and, like, he was just very aggressive about it, yeah. And so I was like, Have I missed that? This has happened before, that they've thought maybe Bobby was a ghost and was around. I don't think so. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. I
LA:mean, I could be wrong, but I don't. I feel like I would remember that
Berly:me too, but I don't. So that's why I was like, did I miss it? So they find because the papers moved, that there is this parchment that has this stuff written on it in Greek. And they're like, well, we don't read Greek, Bobby, read Greek, but we're going to have to go to our next best thing right now, which is this professor at the University, Professor Morrison, and he had also called them. I did forget this, they went up to the university, and he gave them a PowerPoint presentation, which I thought was very kind, yeah, like they just excited. They didn't require him to give them a PowerPoint presentation. I thought that he he went above and beyond to give them a PowerPoint presentation about what he found about the symbols, and what he had found is that they were associated with the goddess Harmonia and Amazons. I don't remember. We'll talk about that later. I think it was a the Amazons, I think were almost wiped out, but then Harmonia made them into monsters to restore the Amazons. And was like, Go procreate, use men for procreation, and then take their hands and feet, yeah? You don't need them after that. You just need that dick. Yeah. Dick loves a muffin. So they're figuring all of this out very quickly. All the pieces are starting to fall into place that Dean was used as, like a stud. Basically, we also see the blind at some point on the phone with Moira rose being like, Oh my God. They're hunters. They're hunters. And Moira Rose is like, well, what are we going to do about it? And then they figure out, well, we've already got one of them on the schedule, meaning Dean, so we'll just have to figure out how we're going to take out the other one. And also we keep seeing flashes of the young girls at their ritual house.
LA:I think it's like a warehouse, because remember that he saw them go into the alleyway from the alleyway into a building, yeah,
Berly:so he knows where they're at. And so it has all. It's like the toddler, not toddlers, the elementary school, elementary school child, children all in a row with a glass of milk. She was like, ew, glass of milk. And then they were like, Okay, here's meat from our victims. It's another honor. It's an honor. You guys need to eat it. Eat it up. And Emma didn't want to eat hers. And they were like, you have to do it, Emma. And so she ate it and drink her milk. I was like, okay, so they were trying to feed us little lies that she was going to be a rebellious little thing, but that's not what she ended up being. And then we when we see them, when they're teenagers and they're getting burned, oh yeah. Like, you have to take it, Emma, take the pain. You've
LA:got to take the pain, to inflict the pain.
Berly:It's an honor. It's an honor.
LA:There's lots of honoring. I'd say, take your honor and shove it. Not gonna have your babies and have my baby kill somebody, not you're gonna let you brand me.
Berly:I mean, I believed her whenever at the end, whenever she's talking about, like, I don't want this. I just this has been my child. My child sucked. I totally believed her first same I was like, the poor girl. Poor girl, yeah,
LA:she just needs her daddy's help.
Berly:She wants to get out of this. She doesn't want to eat people and milk and get burned.
LA:She played it well. Yeah,
Berly:I believed her. I. Leave her. But we aren't there yet. So back at the motel room, Sam and Dean are going through more papers, and Sam decides, like we got sassy. Sam back for a second. Sam is like, so we know that they go after men who they think are successful, right? So why did they go for you?
LA:And Dean's not even offended. I would have been like,
Berly:Excuse me. And he like the face. He like, kind of made a stink face whenever he said it, yeah, I was just like, what Sam so fist. I still don't understand why Sam is so mad. Sam just seems so busy in this episode to me, and I don't understand why.
LA:I guess he needs to get laid too.
Berly:I think so. Like, I get that they're mourning Bobby, and I get that they're dealing with that differently, but Sam just seems so mad. He's so busy, and yeah, like Ellie said, Dean doesn't skip a beat. He's just like, yeah, I might have led her to believe him as a successful banker. My bad oops. Whoopsie. Whoopsie daisy. That
LA:was a big whoops
Berly:the professor lets them know that he's figured out what's on, like the little parchment that they've given him to decode or whatever. Oh, no. This is when they find the parchment. And Sam says, I gotta take this to the professor right away to find out what it says. That's what it is. And I'm gonna leave you I'm gonna leave you all alone. Yeah, I don't understand that for some reason. Let's split up. Yeah, we know that you're in danger. We know that you fit the profile for all these other victims, but you stay here by yourself. I'm gonna run and go talk to Professor PowerPoint about this parchment, Sam goes and gives it to the professor, and the professor, yet again, is like, what am I gonna get out of it? You know? Yeah, I'm not getting enough. And that's what Sam goes we'll remove the wire. Taps at the professor's face. That's good. I loved it. So while Sam is talking with the professor and trying to get the professor to decode this. The professor is taking his time because he's just so fascinated. He's like, what it Where did you get this? The quality the papyrus was hilarious. Dean's daughter shows up at his door, knocks on the door, and again, like we already said, this, this episode is a mess as well. Oh no, that tries to start convincing Dean, I know you're a hunter. Like, save me. Save me. I don't want this, please. Waits until she has a window where Dean's back is turned to her to maybe try and kill him.
LA:And I said, even though I was in the midst of believing her when he turned around and turned his back to her to go to the fridge, I was like, Oh, I don't think
Berly:I'll be turned my back on her. Yeah, uh huh. And sure enough, I wouldn't have even invited her in. Like, the second she was like, saying, like, Oh, I'm starving, I would have been like, well, let's go. Let's go somewhere public.
LA:Or, like, how he undid the chain on the door. I would have just opened the door with the chain and said, Let's chat here, just like this.
Berly:In the meantime, this professor has finally revealed to Sam that it's not the Amazons like the women who come and kill the men. It's the spawn of the men who go kill the father. They go commit patricide. Sam, I think, realized that Dean was going to be really vulnerable to that, because he immediately was like shit and had to rush out of there. It's like you had no problem leaving him alone whenever you thought it was just the chick he slept with that might be coming after him, but the second you realize it might be his kid, you're out the door trying to run, and then the blonde FBI woman comes and is like, where are you going, Sam, I know who you are. Like, flings him up against the door, ooh. And her eyes went, her eyes went like, red. It wasn't
LA:their eyes, or was it around their eyes, or both. Think it was both okay. They just, like, looked like giant
Berly:gashes on their feet, yeah? And they just,
LA:like, flipped gas, pushed out and then went away.
Berly:Yeah? She just like, flashed out. I'm like, I'm not human, yeah, real quick, before she kicked his ass, and he played dead for a second, and waited for her to kind of be caught off guard and then rolled over and he just shot her and she died. That's it. That's all it takes. Just regular bullets.
LA:He's a peasy.
Berly:Don't need to do any further research. Thank God, because research has been a real thorn in their side. This episode, more works than they're used to. They're fighting over this kind of stuff. They aren't they aren't digging this Greek stuff that they're having to look at right now. So Sam rushes back to the motel, and he hears Dean and the Amazon child talking, Emma, Emma, Emma, that's her name. And Sam comes in because he he thinks that Dean's not gonna do the job, and he does the job for Dean. Yeah. He takes care of it. And she flashes her eyes at Sam, and then turns around and be like, Please help me, dad. A little manipulative, yeah, but Sam takes care of it, and he sure tells Dean later, like, I didn't think you would, like, what did you tell me whenever it came to Amy, like you do the job, so I understood the aggression afterwards that, like you did that to Amy, and so I'm doing it for you. And maybe that bringing bringing up. Some stuff. Yeah, just seems to be a lot of unresolved anger here, so that's that. And when they're driving off, that's when Sam is like, telling him, like, I don't care how you deal with it, but don't get yourself killed. And Dean just says he'll do his best, he'll he'll do what he can. And Sam just still seems really fucking irritated by the end of this episode? Yeah. It was written by Eugene, Ross lemming and Brad Buckner, and it was directed by Oh Jerry wannick. I think that's the set guy. Hang on. Let's see here. Production Designer, Oh, nice. He likes close ups. We noticed those close ups. Jerry, the first one was really effective, yeah? Because whenever that guy got slammed up against the wall like that, I did not see that coming at all. It definitely made me paranoid when it resumed in on them and then the other ones in the bar, like I got it, yeah, I knew we were about to have sexy time. All right, Gore, well, we got two blood splooges In this episode. They were fantastic, fantastical. Blood splooges. We were overdue for some blood splooges. Man, yeah, I appreciated the gore in this episode, yeah, yeah. It was good, good stuff. Did you adore anything in this episode? Dean without
LA:Yeah. Dean without a shirt. I liked Eddie.
Berly:I did too.
LA:I wish we got more of Eddie and then sassy Sam. Yeah, yeah. Gotta love sassy
Berly:Sam was nice. Sassy Sam was what about you? Same, same. I liked all of those elements Overall this episode though,
LA:yeah, like I said when we were talking before, I was like, it was just kind of like, too easy, even though they were complaining about having to go get research,
Berly:that was the biggest obstacle of the episode, right? Was the Greek research that was the biggest obstacle of the episode. Yeah, the monsters themselves didn't put up all that much of a threat. Like, once they figured out what was going on, it was like, problem solved. I mean, they did get away in the end, right? I wonder if we're gonna, we're gonna see him again. Kind of hope not. Yeah, they weren't particularly interesting. It was just
LA:the little anti climatic, yeah, climatic, climatic,
Berly:yeah. I feel like this is planting the seeds for Bobby for something, hmm, just the way, the way Sam reacted, the way that, did you not get that vibe? No, I did. Yeah. It's not him. Let it go. It was the vibe I got from it, and why would that be the way to approach it, if it wasn't something that had been brought up before? Yeah, I
LA:don't know. I mean, he seemed pretty irritated with Dean in general.
Berly:I agree. Yeah, he just seemed really irritated in this episode. Yeah, maybe you're right. He just needs to get laid. Simple as that. It's all there is to it. What about Laura? All right? Well, this is an
LA:article from The Guardian, and it is titled, truth behind the myths. Amazon warrior women of Greek legend may really have existed in Greek legends, the Amazon were feared and formidable women warriors who lived on the edge of the known world. Hercules had to obtain the magic girdled of the merit magic
Berly:girdle, I need a magic girdle, or
LA:Achilles had to obtain the magic girdle of the Amazonian Queen Hippolyte, is that it in one of his 12 labors, and Achilles killed another queen and the Celia only to fall in love with her as her beautiful face emerged from her helmet. Just happens to me all the time. Relatable.
Berly:Tell me about it.
LA:These horseback riding, bow wielding nomads who fought and hunted, just like men, have long been shrouded in myth, but archeologists are discovering increasing evidence that they did really exist. Excavations of graves within a Bronze Age necropolis in Naka Sivan, sure. Yeah, it
Berly:okay in Azerbaijan. Azerbai
LA:Yeah, okay, that what you said reveal that women had been buried with weapons such as a razor sharp arrowheads, a bronze dagger and a mace as well as jewelry. Keep it good late. Keep it classy. Lady was wearing your jewelry while you're on the map. That battlefield for Amazon's, they
Berly:were awfully housewives. You know what I mean? Right
LA:there. They were no like, yeah. I mean, the most warrior thing was then throwing them in around, right? Real Housewives representation, yeah, archeologists have concluded that they could have been Amazon women who lived 4000 years ago. These fearsome women were famed for their male, free society and their prowess on the battlefield, particularly with a bow and arrow. Historian Betty Hughes told the observer, it shows that there's truth behind the myths and the legends of ancient Greece. She said, This evidence was all the more significant when linked to earlier finds. In 2019, the remains of four female warriors buried with arrow heads and spears were found in Russia. And in 2017, American archeologists unearthed the remains of a woman who appeared to have died. From battle injuries, as an arrowhead was buried in her leg. Oh, damn. In the early 1990s the remains of a woman buried with a dagger were found near the Kazakhstan border. They're all over the place. Yeah, Hugh said a civilization isn't made up of a single grave, if we're talking about a culture that crosses the caucuses and the steep which is what all the scientists said. Obviously, you need some other remains. Some of the skeletons reveal that the women had used bows and arrows extensively. Hughes observed their fingers were warped because they're using arrows so much. Oh, that's crazy. Damn. Changes on the finger joints wouldn't just happen from hunting. That is some sustained big practice. What's very exciting is that a lot of the bone evidence is also showing clear evidence of sustained time in the saddle. Women's pelvises are basically opened up because of the writing. Okay, I gotta start that
Berly:over, because they're writing what? Women's
LA:pelvises are basically opened up because they're riding horses. Their bones are just shaped by their lifestyle. She noted that the jewelry includes Carnelian necklaces. Carnelian is a semi precious stone. Probably saying that wrong. Is a semi precious stone. You see it often when people are high priestesses or goddesses. Oh, man. So it's a mark of women with status, as are mace heads in the documentary treasures of the world, Bethany Hughes says, of the Amazon finds, slowly you're getting these brilliant bits of evidence that are coming out of the earth. That's often the way with the really best stories. She visits the mountain village of kingling. Kingling, in the greater caucuses, the highest inhabited place in Europe. It is so remote that it feels as though it's lost in time, she says, noting that its local language is not spoken anywhere else. Huh. There's been a settlement there since the Bronze Age, and some of its 2000 residents tell her that in ancient times, their women disguised themselves as men with scarves, stories handed down through generations. She raised ancient stories of Amazons with them. They said all our grandmothers fought. The men were all away with the herds. The Women always used to cover their faces to fight, which is exactly what the ancient sources said, so that people didn't know whether they were women or men, huh? So, yeah, I think this episode didn't do them justice.
Berly:I think so too. And you know what? I don't know. Maybe that's that is how they would have evolved over the years. But it just seemed like their whole purpose was just to make babies and go kill the husband and like, what were they really doing? Were these women infiltrating political positions? There was just so many, so much left undone, unsaid with the story. Yeah, I agree. I don't know. Like, okay, I get that. They just use men to procreate. Okay. What else were they doing? Why? Yeah, what else were they doing? Were these powerful women? Were they just because they just seemed like housewives to
LA:me, just making, they're just making more of them. That's all, yeah, just,
Berly:just to procreate. And that's it. That's their whole purpose is to just what I didn't like this one, yeah, like I said, it had elements I adored, elements I enjoyed. But like, if we don't ever find out what happened to the Amazonian women, I'm good. Like, I don't, I don't need there to be an episode in our, uh, spin off idea. Yeah, that fills in the gaps with the Amazonian women.
LA:But yeah, well, maybe if they had been depicted more like this, yeah?
Berly:Like the Warriors, yeah, powerful goddess, like, not
LA:manipulative, trying to get trap queens. That's what they are, yeah, well, next not even trapped, because they're going to kill him the next day,
Berly:or whatever. Quote, to close it out at the end, whenever Dean and Sam are talking about how they're both coping with Bobby's death, Dean says that, uh, Sam's not handling it too well either, but quote, you're just bigger.
LA:Sam looks over at Dean amused, and says, What? Dean
Berly:goes, I don't know.
Unknown:He is bigger. He is Cheers.
Berly:Thank you for listening to denim wrapped
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