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• Berly, LA • Season 7 • Episode 9

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Berly and LA recap the season seven Supernatural episode, How To Win Friends And Influence Monsters. Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures. Now, let's get tipsy!  CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞

Summary: In the ninth episode of Supernatural's seventh season, titled "How to Win Friends and Influence Monsters," the Winchesters and Bobby investigate a series of murders involving a glamping couple and the Jersey Devil. They discover a Leviathan-tainted turducken sandwich causing people to become either stoned or feral. The team tracks the source to a warehouse where they confront Edgar and Dr. Gaines. Bobby is kidnapped, leading to a dramatic showdown where he shoots Dick Roman. The episode ends with Bobby critically injured. The discussion also touches on the Jersey Devil's folklore and the negative effects of certain food additives.

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Berly:

Ella, welcome to denim wrapped nightmares, Tipsy exchange Podcast where we explore the supernatural series, episode by episode,

LA:

over drinks, we'll discuss the lore the gore and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.

Berly:

I'm Burleigh, and I'm a new fan of the series. I'm

LA:

LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get Tipsy. I love LA.

Berly:

Hey Burley, before we get into it, I would like to ask our listeners to please nominate us for the best TV and film category. Over on Discover pods, they are accepting nominations for their 2024 awards. You can find the link to the nomination form on our link tree at d w n, pod.com that's d w n, p, O, d.com and it'll ask you for a website. Feel free to put our link tree website, or if you're up to it, you can type out denim wrapped nightmares. We appreciate your nomination. So where were we last week? La,

LA:

last week's episode was season seven, time for a wedding. I like this description. While on a hunt, Sam runs into someone from his past, and a confrontation ensues,

Unknown:

What? What?

LA:

Oh, you mean, a wedding, a marriage.

Berly:

And he wasn't on a hunt. He was hanging out in the desert, that's right, yeah, had a love spell on him from what's her name. He got roofy and taken advantage of, Becky.

LA:

Becky, yeah. Becky, not good. Meanwhile, Dean reluctantly teamed up with a quirky, laid back hunter named Garth, guest star DJ Qualls, who was so cute.

Berly:

He was so cute, but Leslie Odom Junior was my favorite. That's true. That's true. I liked him. We got some sassy back. That's what it was. He was sassy. I miss the sassiness. We don't have anybody who's really sassy this season so far, yeah, you're right. They took away all our angels, and Sammy hasn't been sassy, right? And, well, they

LA:

ended up turning him over to sassy Crowley,

Berly:

I know. And Crowley said, I'll leave you boys alone so you can go hunt Leviathan. And so they got back to it this episode, yep, is it just me or like, like Chet was following them, but for a really long time, that's been the only Leviathan thing going on this season. I totally forgot about it. Yeah, Edgar, the people

LA:

that show up in this one, right? But I'm

Berly:

just saying it's been a really long time since we've seen them. I feel like, yeah, maybe it hasn't. And I just feel like it's been a while. But anyway, speaking of this one, today's episode is called How to Win Friends and Influence monsters. It's the ninth episode of season seven, and originally aired on November 18, 2011 we start out in the woods and we hear some panting running through. And I was like, Uh oh, is this the victim or the monster? And then we kind of see through their eyes, through their perspective, that it wasn't blurry, but he did something with the visual there. Focus, yeah, the focus, I think you, you know you're looking from somebody's perspective, and it's this tint. And then we zoom in on a generator. LA's already laughing, because she knows I'm gonna go on a tirade. I already heard it zoom in on this generator and then follow the generator cord to the tent, and then you see this couple in the tent, and they're on a mattress. And I'm assuming it's a blow up mattress or something. I don't know, because they're glamping, I don't think so, right, but I don't think it was a blow up mattress either, and yet they're in sleeping bags. They're each in their own sleeping bag, snuggled in. They call them like a human burrito later in the episode, and that's totally what they looked like. But why the fuck was there a full ass headboard, two night stands and like wooden, wooden lamps, not like collapsible travel to go lamps like full on. I mean, that looked wooden to me, like you needed your headboard. You needed your headboard for your glamping experience.

LA:

I mean, you could just stay home and sleep in your sleeping bags on your bed, right

Berly:

or not, take a full ass headboard for with you to your what?

LA:

What was that? They're fancy. I said, we're not skimping on the style in our tent.

Berly:

I like rewound it and hit play again because I thought, did it cut to something weird? Are we actually looking in someone's literal home now? But no, it's confirmed later in the episode, they were glampers. They were high end campers and yeah, I guess high end means like, you bring some real furniture with you, not this whole bedroom. Yeah, we need the night. The night ends, not the night ends in tables, the night stands. We need our full ass headquarter. I got really hung up on it guys. I

LA:

think they're just a strange couple in general, because they're out. In the wilderness, it's raining, so you hear all the nature sounds, but yet he puts on earbuds to nature sounds at play. I was like, Is that necessary? You got it right there. What's the point of y'all being here?

Berly:

You're not looking at the stars. How much time did it take you to set up your bedroom that's in that tent? No? How did you get that headboard there? Because I didn't see a huge truck outside, and it's the whole the whole truck was just the bedroom. You just took your bedroom outside. I just what is happening weirdos and deep sleepers, it's a husband and a wife, and we kind of zoom in on the husband, and then next thing we see the husband is hanging from a tree, like cocoon style, upside down, and he's still sleeping. Yeah,

LA:

it's peaceful. It's those nature sounds.

Berly:

He finally wakes up and is calling for his wife, something, the thing that we were seeing from their perspective earlier, that was like stalking the tent outside comes and attacks him and gobbles him up. And then we get supernatural.

LA:

I like though, before that, whatever is eating him, ripping him apart, is up in the tree and just little clumps of the bloody sleeping bag fall, and his earbuds still going just fall on the ground. And then I'm like, Why

Berly:

did you hang him upside down first? What was the point of that? I guess he took them both at the same time, maybe, and ate the wife first. Yeah. Why do they need to eat in the trees? Oh, no. They

LA:

don't like to be interrupted. They don't want any other creatures coming for their food.

Berly:

They don't want to share. Yeah, anyway, that that's the opener, and we spent far more time on it than we needed to. But I just was really hung up on this couple. Was that headboard? What are they doing? We cut to Sam, Dean and Bobby. They're all holed up in some dilapidated, rundown house trying to rig up the electricity. And Dean is not having a good time y'all. He does not like living off the grid. He is tired of the cold showers, cold hot pockets, and then the power goes out, and he's just over it. He wants

LA:

to get back to the luxury of his motels. He does.

Berly:

But you know, Bobby and Sam, they're just trying to stay positive. You know, we have leviathans on our tail. We are, what did? What did Bobby say? He said something about, like, I am sticking to the Frank Devereaux handbook, like we are not going off guide. We got a grid. Yeah, off grid, yeah. Well, Frank's guide. We're not going off. Frank's guide to off grid behavior. I am sticking to it, and you just need to suck it up. Dean, get with the program. And Dean is just, he's not happy. Oh, it is important to note that he does bitch about, you know, we're saving the world. It would have ended if we hadn't saved everybody, like, three times now in three years. What's the point of all of this? Sam is researching, and he finds a case. Of course, he finds out about the glamping couple. I like that whenever Bobby was like glamping, what was glamping? Sam was like high end camping. Bobby is just appalled. Yeah. What is this? Yeah. Sam says that people are hypothesizing that it's the New Jersey Devil or not. Jersey Devil, just The Jersey Devil, they're in New Jersey, but Jersey Devil, right, right. Anyways, the consensus is, let's go check out this glamper couple, even though we judge them, oh yes, for their extracurricular activities, we're still going to go and see if we can't solve their murder, because what is this Jersey Devil anyway?

LA:

Lots of history that Sam threw out there, different versions of it.

Berly:

This is what I think it is. Did you Did you note any of it? I did not,

LA:

I think, well, like one, one of the pictures had claws and spikes, one had wings, all kinds of different versions that people had been talking about over the years, but now I didn't make a note, just

Berly:

a bunch of interesting history. Yeah, people claiming they saw

LA:

different versions of them. How many times am I gonna say version, Virgin

Berly:

versions? Versions. Okay, anywho they go to town, they have a meeting with the chief ranger at a bigger sense. So I'm guessing that's where the chief told them to come meet him, because I don't see Sam and Dean being like, Yeah, let's meet and have a conversation at bigger sins.

LA:

Yeah, is that a real place?

Berly:

I don't think so. It's but we've seen bigger sins before in the supernatural universe. Okay, that's what I thought like. Do you remember the rabbit's foot episode, how they won? They walked in and they were the millionth customer, and they that was a bigger sense, like almost every time they're going to a chain type restaurant, and not a mom and pop diner, it's a bigger sense, gotcha, a restaurant should do like a pop. Up bigger sins shop and served her duck and sandwiches and all of that. That would be cute.

LA:

That'd be funny. That

Berly:

would be fine. I'm throwing that out there Chili's or whatever y'all should do, like a pop up bigger sins for Supernaturals 20th anniversary, because that's next year. That gives you plenty of time to get prepared and make this happen. I know the sandwich was evil, but it looked good, so just, Dean liked it. Dean liked it a lot. Dean was tearing into it. So just don't make it evil though, please. Ranger Rick seemed stoned as all fuck. I even said that, like, before they commented on it, I was like, he seems high. Yeah. He is just like, oh yeah, my Jeopardy. I actually haven't heard from him in a while.

LA:

I haven't seen him for about four days or so.

Berly:

This is a cute episode, and Sam and Dean are just looking at each other every once in a while, while they're trying to interview the ranger about what's going on here, they don't get a whole lot of useful information out of him. No, well,

LA:

I think he did say that there were four other people that had gone missing before this couple. I think, yeah, that's about as useful, useful

Berly:

as he got. Like, Yeah. He was busy eating, okay. He was on his break. Bobby comes walking into the restaurant looking all tapper, and his full coat and his hair comes back. He had come in from the morgue. So he runs into Dean and Sam and Dean says, you know, I'm hungry. It's lunch time. Like, can we get something to eat? And Bobby says he's starving too. So they all agree, yeah, let's let's eat. Dean taps the shoulder of a waiter walking by. He's like, Hey, um, Brandon, like, can we just grab a booth? This infuriates Brandon.

LA:

It was over the top.

Berly:

He was not happy. He was like, do I look like a hostess to you? And Dean said, Do you want to look like a hostess? And Brandon just like, and storms off. I mean, this wasn't sassy, this was just straight up rude, yeah,

LA:

like, over the top, anger, aggressive,

Berly:

and I like that. Sam was like, that didn't make any sense what she said. And it always cracks me up, because the first time I heard something like this, I was teaching a dance class. It's what I was teaching a dance class, and one of one of the dancers in there had on dance shorts, and they were, they were short dance shorts, but whatever. I don't care. We're in a dance class. You want to have full range of motion. We're among peers. It's fine. I didn't care, but one of the other dancers did care, and she was like, What are you wearing? Those look like panties? And my student went, you look like panties. And she was dead serious. I died laughing. I thought that was hilarious, and I've done that in so many instances ever since, just because someone's like that looks like shorts, you look like shorts like I love that comeback. It's my favorite, and that's what this reminded me of, yeah, yeah. Do you want to look like a hostess Sam, that didn't make sense. That's not the point. Yeah, anywho they sit down. Oh, the other funny thing, Sam was like, I hope we don't get Brandon's section. Well, of course, they get seated in Brandon's section. Sam gets his salad. I can't remember what he said to Sam, whenever he threw it down. Yeah. He had Nick little nicknames, little nicknames for everybody. Dean was the kind doll. Oh, Sam was big bird. Oh, Big Bird, yeah. And then he threw it, threw down the chicken salad for Bobby, Grandpa chicken salad, or something like that. Creepy uncle. That was creepy uncle chicken salad. Dean called it grandpa chicken salad. Later, and Dean finally goes, What's your problem? And Britain is like, you're my problem. You. And then he storms off. Like, what the fuck we hear him getting in a fight with his manager a little bit later, arguing over whether or not someone was fat. Yeah. And whenever the manager, like, is like, shut up, he, like, gets really mad, throws down his apron and storms off the

LA:

what do you go tell people I quit because he didn't agree with me that she was fat. Yeah.

Berly:

So Dean has ordered this turducken sandwich, which is what Ranger Rick was eating whenever he was just having his carefree little break over there. And Dean is going to town. He is really happy with his sandwich, like

LA:

one bite, and he's amazed.

Berly:

I mean, just mouth watering, enjoying his turducken. It's also important to know note that Bobby did share with them, after the morgue, that the wounds on the body of the campers, that the bite marks were too small to be Leviathan. The campers had their hearts, so it wasn't a werewolf, and when degos Don't leave scraps, so they're kind of at a loss as to what it is they're hunting. They gear up with rifles and go walking through the woods to start doing some tracking.

LA:

It's really important to note sans hair looked really good in the forest.

Berly:

In the forest specifically. I mean, it's

LA:

looking better. But I was just like, oh, hair, the hair is working in the forest. It's

Berly:

like seasons one through five. Crypkey era with Sam, we talked a lot about his eyes and how his eyes were different colors in every other scene during episodes. But for gamble era, it's Sam's hair. His hair is good, bad. What's happening there? Like in every other scene, like, it's not even every other episode, it's just like his eyes. It's

LA:

like a whole other character. What's

Berly:

going on there? Yeah,

LA:

every time I'm watching it, we lost baby,

Berly:

but we've gained Sam's hair, right? Yeah. I thought this forest walking scene was nice exposition to kind of let us in a little bit more about that. Bobby is who has taught them how to track that they used to go hunting with Bobby. Whenever John would ditch him, ditch him with Bobby because he didn't want to take them on a case, or whatever he was doing, or he was going to see Adam's mom. Get some, get some. Here, you take the kids, Bobby, I gotta go get laid. Yeah, and Bobby would find some fur. And was like, Oh, I imagine two bucks were fighting here, but I bet the other guy won. I was like, what?

LA:

I know I was thinking, you got all that from just a little patch of hair. All right, hey, he used to him and his family used to kill their their dinners

Berly:

they're walking through, and I think they had like scope lights on the rifle or something, but they go up and look in the trees, and they see a bloody arm just hanging there, and they say, Oh, we think we found deputy Phil. They call it in to Chief Ranger Rick, who comes out and again, just completely he's happy again. He's just like, whatever, like, oh, yeah, I guess that's Phil, yeah. Well shit,

LA:

I guess I should call that in Yeah. I like, how you kind of make sure, like, a question, like, should I do

Berly:

any two Sam says, like, good call Rick or something like that. Sam

LA:

is not amused by Rick.

Berly:

We get a little bit of sassy Sam this season. Yeah, I want full sassy Sam back. I don't think we're gonna get full sassy Sam back until the Lucifer hallucinations stop, but I would like to get some more sassy Sam back. Hopefully we'll get there. Give me some sass somewhere you get you gave me this guy who was full on Sass and but you took him away. I always do. I mean, we do still have Crowley. Yeah, Dick isn't sassy. Are you pondering that?

LA:

No, I'm trying to think of another word for him, because, yeah, he's not sassy dick, kind of, he's kind of a dick,

Berly:

yeah, Dick loves a muffin. Oh,

LA:

did not even that did not register

Berly:

at first. Remember in the limo, yeah, yeah. He was like, I love a muffin. And

LA:

then, I mean, they were really toying with the dick.

Berly:

Dick is coming.

LA:

Dick on the rise. Dick

Berly:

on the rise was great. I

LA:

mean, come on. Oh, okay. We

Berly:

aren't there yet, yeah. So Ranger Rick goes to call in this body, and we get that other perspective, again from the forest. So we're like, Uh oh, they're not alone. And Bobby even says We got company.

LA:

I like how he knows, just knows they're gonna go for Rick. And not one of them did he Yeah, they were like, they were like, Rick. They're, I forget what he said, but it was he knew that the thing's going for Rick. And I just thought, why Rick? Just because he's just high as a kite, completely

Berly:

unarmed, yeah,

LA:

I mean, but the way he took Rick was from behind, so he could have taken one, like, took him

Berly:

from behind. Like, yeah, Dick loves him, muffin. Okay, anyway, but yeah, and he like, you wait. I wonder how they did that, if that was, what is it, harness and ropes or whatever, because that was cool. Yeah, the way they pulled him away was fast. I am curious. I don't know anything about TV shows getting made, but I know that there's like the executive director kind of guy, and I wonder who it is now, because this episode was directed by Guy B. Okay. Guy B gave us asylum in season one, Guy B knows how to do cool shit, you know. And I just feel like, this season it just, I mean, yeah, with the story and certain things, there are certain elements to it, or that are definitely supernatural, but just a lot of it filming wise, it's like Gossip Girl or any other CW show, you know what I mean, maybe his budget that year. I'm wondering, yeah, I am curious, what happened to where just visually, it's changed a little bit. And you know, some of these other directors we've seen are new, or I don't know them as well. This dude did asylum. Man, like, come on. I'm just curious. So if anybody knows history here, what happened, I would be interested to know Rick gets pulled up into the tree. Me by whatever just snatched them. And you can, like, hear, yeah, the sound effects were crazy. Hear it eating him, which lucky for them that they could hear it so well, because they couldn't see shit, true. And Bobby says, turn off your lights. And Sam's like, I don't want to. And he's like, Just do it. Turn off your lights. We gotta, we gotta go by sound. So Bobby does the next logical thing and just completely closes his eyes and then fires off his shotgun, or not, shotgun rifle.

LA:

He's, he's like a genius in the woods. Yeah,

Berly:

they were like, great shot. And he's like, Yeah, I fucking know you look like panties. And he hits it, you know, this thing falls, I gotta say, out of all the monsters we've seen in supernatural, this was, by far, in my opinion, the most disgusting. I hated it the eyeballs. This was disgusting, yeah, like it looked like a rotten Yeah, I

LA:

was gonna say, the skin rotted.

Berly:

And that's when I was like, Okay, well, it's not a zombie because we saw the zombie, or maybe it is a zombie, but it's just super old, and it was fucking disgusting, is my point. It was really, really gross. They decide to just leave Rick in the tree, like he did. He did get that call out. He got that call out. They'll find their own. Those people will find him. It's fine. Just leave him in the tree. But let's take this monster back to our dilapidated hideout and see what we can find out. So they get it there, and they're looking at it, and they're like, this is fucking gross. Guys never seen this before. Let's cut it open. Get a good look at its stomach contents. And they find a pine cone. They find a cat head, they find something that was human. And Dean is listening to them going through the body and all that. He's just like, I'm really hungry. Guys like,

LA:

not helping, just standing there watching them drinking,

Berly:

like, when are we, when are we gonna go get something to eat? Can y'all, Can y'all wrap this up, they also find the adrenal gland, not Gand gland. I thought it was gonna be at heart how big it was. And Bobby said this is normally supposed to be, like, the size of bar soap. And I was like, Oh, they're like, Okay, so that explains the super strength. And the guy, they had gone through his pockets and looked at his ID, he was supposed to be five foot nine, 235, pounds, and this dude was skinny, but he had super strength and super speed. They just were like, What the We don't know. We don't know what the fuck we're dealing with. This is really crazy.

LA:

Bobby stuck that stick in his wound, and it was like, the goo,

Unknown:

yeah, gray,

LA:

gray, blue, something goo,

Berly:

like snot. It was like, it was gross, like slime. It was really gross. And they are noticing that Dean, something's off with Dean, yeah, they're like, what? We don't really know what's going on here. You're acting a little odd. They don't really put two and two together until they go back to a bigger sense. Because, of course, at the bigger sins, Dean orders his wonderful sandwich again, that's when Sam and Bobby kind of scan the restaurant and notice that anybody who's eating that sandwich seems like they're stoned, seems like they're out of it, and so they slap that sandwich out of Dean's

LA:

hand. Well, deeds like, I just don't give her a toss. Like he doesn't care about anything. He doesn't care about this job.

Berly:

Yeah, he was saying he feels better than he has in months. He was like Cass. He didn't he did bring up Cass again, so he's still struggling with that. They're back at the house whenever they're having this conversation, and they've brought back Dean sandwich that he hasn't eaten because they took it away from him and it like bubbles out that grace knot. So gross. I wonder how they did that. They must have had some sort of pump, like hose and pump under the table or whatever. But yeah, I was disgusting. It was done really well, and Dean was just like, What did he say?

LA:

I think you upset my sandwich.

Berly:

You upset my sandwich. Yeah, if I wasn't so numb, I'd vomit or something.

LA:

Oh yeah,

Berly:

it was pretty gross. Sam and Bobby go on a stakeout at the bigger sins restaurant, and they see a truck come to drop off meat or whatever, and they're like, Okay, let's follow that truck. Let's see where their supply is coming from. Because that was oozing out of the meat. Dean is in the back, and Bobby was like, he's sleeping it off. It's fine. I don't remember the trip, trip of whatever that he said, Isn't that stuff in Turkey that makes you tired? Tryptophan? Yeah. Tryptophan, coma. So they go back to the warehouse, and they see a car pull up, and this car has Brandon. We spotted Brandon earlier attacking a woman in the parking lot of the bigger sins, and some dude pulled up, and he looked in the headlights and his eyes were all getting gross. So he's been eating the turducken and having different reactions to the sandwich, which we find out it's zero point or 0.03% of people who eat these sandwiches don't get stoned, like Ranger Rick. They get feral, like Brandon here, where they're going to get angry and aggressive and start eating people become cannibals. So. Brandon gets taken hostage, and now Bobby and Sam are watching this warehouse, and they see Brandon get taken in by none other than Edgar, who I had completely forgotten about. I have forgotten about Edgar, but Edgar the Leviathan is back. Dr, Gaines. Dr, sexy the Leviathan is back, and they are in this warehouse where they have the meat, and they're also conducting experiments. So he brings them Brandon in, and they throw him in a cage, and Dr Gaines is talking about how well everything is going. The experiment's going great. And Edgar tells him, you need to burn all of these things. And they had, like, I want to say it was like at least 10 people in these cages, these individual cages. Dr Gaines pushes back, and it's like, no, this is good data. This is going to help me with my science, with perfecting my formula, and blah, blah, blah. And Edgar goes, Dick is coming. And Dr Gaines eyes get really big, and he goes, Oh my god, Dick is coming. And Edgar said, Yes, Dick is coming. And so Dr Gaines says, burn them. Burn them all.

LA:

They don't ever do, though, do they? Well,

Berly:

we don't see them do it, but he does try to hide them. Dick still already knows, because that's why he makes Dr Gaines get bibbed. Oh, yeah, later. But he does try to burn the evidence. He doesn't want dick to know that there were some mistakes. So the guys are all watching the warehouse now, including Dean. He's conscious, oh, I do want to go back to Sam and Bobby doing the stakeout. I liked that we got to have a Sam and Bob. We don't get many moments where it's just Sam and Bobby, right? And so I liked that. I liked that conversation. You know, Sam's very worried about Dean lately. And Bobby points out, you know, you worry about him. All he does is worry about you, who's out here living their own lives for themselves, like you guys got to stop this CO dependent stuff. You can be partners and not be like this. And Sam does mention, yet again, he's still seeing Lucifer like this. Is this is going to be important that he's still seeing Lucifer. They keep reminding us of this. And he's did the hand thing he was he was messing with his hand. So he's still using that hand method to ground himself in reality whenever he's dealing with these hallucinations. Right? And he told Bobby that, you know, all things considered seeing Lucifer every day, like, isn't that big of a deal? Like, it could have been a lot worse, with everything that happened to him and Bobby said, You

Unknown:

always were deep.

Berly:

I liked it. I thought it was really cute. Yeah, I liked getting to see Sam and Bobby interact. Anyhow. So now cut forward. It's the next day, and Sam Dean and Bobby, all three of them see Dick, and they're like, Whoa, look at that dick. Really impressive. And Bobby says, Yeah, I know. Check this out. And that's whenever he plays a little YouTube video or something where it's the rise of Dick, and it talks about how Dick has been doing these corporate takeovers and all this stuff for the past few months. And they do so many good special effects on this show. I love so many of the special effects on this show, but those photo shops, they were not good. They were not we were laughing our asses off. They were not good photo shops at all. It was like, clearly, just that they cut and paste James Patrick Stewart's face into some of these pictures, or that even the entire picture had been photoshopped together, like it was bad, yeah. Anyway, long story short, with the video, this is one of the most powerful men in the country, so it's a really big fucking deal that the leviathans have this guy that that's however you want to say it, that they're using him to make their plans go into place. And Bobby realizes, okay, they are planning something much bigger than we've realized. If they are using dick, Bobby pulls out special equipment for them to eavesdrop on everybody. He got it from Frank Devereaux. I hope we get to see Frank again. Yeah, they've mentioned him, but, like, we haven't seen him again. I hope we get to see him again. So he's pulled out this equipment and they're going to spy on the warehouse and try to see if they can't collect some more information. So Sam and Dean stay in the van and are trying to just kind of keep an eye on things from their viewpoint. Bobby goes on the roof of a building nearby and is on the other side of the building. Dick Roman goes inside and finds out what's going on with Dr Gaines, you know, even though they have this food additive that is making people complacent and they don't even notice that grandma has died in this room, that they're sitting they had, like, a testing room. Yeah, they're just sitting there eating and eating and eating and watching TV, and Grandma is, like, in the chair, like, as you can see, they haven't even noticed grandma is no longer with us. I was just like, Oh my God. But then Dick says, Yeah, but this is great. But you also made headline news. Yeah, I'm not happy. That is the golden rule. I

LA:

think he called it hyper adrenal cannibalism, yeah. So, yeah, that made it into the news, rightfully so, right? You

Berly:

would think so. And Dick is like, that is the golden rule. Golden Rule is, there are no monsters. We do not make headlines. We do not get in the papers. There are no monsters. There is nothing out here scaring people away like you fucked up. Burn

LA:

it all down. You're done. You're done.

Berly:

We are ending this experiment, and you need to eat yourself, is what he told them. Yeah. He was like, I'm gonna bib you. And she pulled out this little thing, and I thought it was like a trash bag. I was very confused. I was like, what is happening? And Dick, you're not sassy, but damn, are you dramatic? Because what was the point of that bib?

LA:

Yeah,

Berly:

there was no purpose. It was just to be dramatic. So Dr Gaines eats himself, and Bobby is seeing all of this because it's happening in a meeting room on his side of the building, so he's seeing it and listening to the conversation. Unfortunately, Bobby somehow gets spotted, so two leviathans come and kidnap Bobby, take him inside. Obviously, by the time Sam and team get over to the other side of the building and the roof, he's already long gone like they there was no way they were going to be able to get to him in time if something happened, Bobby comes too, and he's in Dick's office, and Dick had just got a brand new gun. There's two handguns and bullets in there. He has all his paperwork about all the plans that he's planning to do, and he has this fabulous assistant, Susan, who's helping him do all of these things. And he tells Bobby, I'm gonna eat you. And Bobby's just like, great. It's awesome. Oh, first Dick did load his gun. He loaded one of the handguns.

LA:

Oh, isn't it that he knows the boys are like, nearby? Yeah. He

Berly:

was like, I know that Calvary is coming. I know that they're coming. I'm putting all his bullets in his gun. And he's like, Don't you like my gun? And Bobby tells him, no, no, the boys aren't coming. They know they're outnumbered. They're outgunned. They're out manned. They aren't that stupid. They aren't going to come in here. Well, sure enough, they have, like, these cleaner pump things. I'm like, Where'd those come from? I guess they were in the back of the van, and they just come running in, or just, like, spraying all the Leviathan down and trying to come run in to save Bobby. It works the burns. It did. It did. So that's why Dick leaves the office. Susan comes in, is like, yeah, you need to come out here. And so he leaves with Susan. He tells Bobby, stay in that chair. Bobby does not stay in that chair. He tries to go and look through the paperwork. And he gets the other handgun and loads that, and he goes running out. And Susan gets him slaps, yeah. She comes in, was like, knocks him down, yeah. But he shoots her in the head so he's able to escape. She still stood up and looked fabulous. She was not phased. But he did get away, because that Dick Roman is down there and he's got Sam cornered. And Sam sprayed Dick Roman's face with the cleaner. That was a cool special effect whenever his skin was regrowing back, and he was like, Sam, that was fucking rude, not the face. Ah, Bobby shows up with the handgun and shoots Dick twice in the back, and then Bob, Dick turns around. Was like, Ah, how dare you I just get them, but they go running off. Bobby was not running as fast as I wish he had been. I even said, like, why are you taking your time, Bobby? Like, why you keep looking over your shoulder? You already know the handgun doesn't do that much. What else you gonna do? Get moving. Like, get outside. Sam and Dean have the van right there in front of the warehouse ready to go. Don't know how they got the van there so quickly. Maybe they pulled it up there before they ran and into the warehouse to begin with. And they're like, Get in the car. Get in the car. Get in the car, Bobby. So Bobby gets into the back of the van, and as he's going to slide the door shut. Dick Roman runs out and fires off his handgun, and then they drive off, and the door shuts, and Dick fires off a couple more rounds, and Sam and Dean are saying, okay, great, we made it. We got away. We did it. And then Sam tries to hand Bobby his baseball hat, and there's a bullet hole in the baseball hat, and Bobby's not talking, and they're both just like Bobby, not respond Bobby, and the episode ended.

LA:

We'll see, we'll see what happens.

Berly:

And I didn't spot any yellow rubber duckies. Guy B said that we should keep an eye out for ducks. And I did not see any ducks in this episode. I didn't either. So if it was in this episode, you hit it? Well, it was written by Ben Edlund. Should have known with dick jokes and directed by Guy B. That's so gore. There wasn't really any gore. I mean, the leviathans getting hurt. Oh, I lie, the stomach stuff was discussed.

LA:

Oh yeah,

Berly:

I would say that was the goriest thing. I mean, there was some wounds and some eating people and all of that. But I would say the little makeshift autopsy of the monster was the grossest thing.

LA:

I agree. And just the monster itself,

Berly:

yeah, oh so gross. That was disgusting. And the goo, Mm, hmm. And then just thinking, whenever Dean saw the sandwich and was like, that's in me. Like. Oh yeah, I would puke gross. I would calm or not. I would have puked, I think like I've I've calmly vomited before. Did you adore anything about this episode?

LA:

I liked, uh, stone Dean. He was fun. What about you?

Berly:

I felt like Dean was depressed in this episode, though, like he was saying he was happy, and it's like, happy doesn't mean not caring about anything. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know, stoned Dean was. Was fun, though, I will say fun. I loved the SAM and Bobby, oh yeah, stuff. Bobby had some really great monologs In this episode he did with Sam and Dean, both of them, you know, he schooled to Dean about how he's seen several hunters over the years, and that Dean is starting to talk like the hunters who don't make it, and that he needs to find whatever his reason is to keep going. And that was a great monolog. So really liked those monologs from Jim Beaver. It was just a fun episode.

LA:

Yeah, the dick jokes were good. The

Berly:

dick jokes were good. Yeah? James Patrick Stewart, you know, like I said, he's not sassy, but what he is doing with Dick he's doing well, yeah, so he's a good villain, a good campy villain. And like I said, he's so dramatic, the whole bib thing, the whole thing with the gun, even though, and I'm gonna eat you, like, he's just, he is very dramatic about everything, so that's fun. And I think he comes from soap operas, so I imagine he had a field day with this role, I bet. All right, well, take us into the lore. We're

LA:

going to talk about The Jersey Devil. The article is called The Jersey Devil and folklore from Pinelands Preservation Alliance, the New Jersey pylons. Is home to miles of pine trees and Sandy roads, but it is also home to New Jersey's most infamous resident, The Jersey Devil, designated in 1938 as the country's only state demon. The Jersey Devil is described as a kangaroo like creature with the face of a horse the head of a dog, bat like wings, horns and a tail for more than 250 years, this mysterious creature is said to prowl through the marshes of southern New Jersey and emerge periodically to rampage through the towns and cities. Fun, yay. The most widely held belief about the origin of the Jersey Devil is that Mrs. Leeds a resident of estelleville. Estelleville sure was distraught when she learned she was expecting for the 13th time. Oh, my god, wow. She's Wow.

Berly:

I can understand, yeah, industry,

LA:

in disgust, she cried out. Let let it be the devil. The story continues that the child arrived, and it was a baby devil. Baby devil, the creature then gave a screech, unfolded its wings and flew out the window and into the adjacent swamp. Countless stories have circled describing the devil's escapades, raiding chicken coops and farms, destroying crops and killing animals. His presence has been seen and felt by many, at least in at least 50 different towns when he emerges from his natural lair in the Pinelands and wanders about, sometimes intriguing and sometimes terrorizing, the residents posses were constantly formed to apprehend the devil, but to no avail, and at one point, as much as $100,000 was offered for the capture of the devil, dead or alive. Several reports of the jersey Devil's death also proved to be inconclusive, and even the scientific community could not explain its existence. It's not real. Belief in The Jersey Devil is quite real, and based on records of concrete occurrences, concrete LA, what did I say? You said it wasn't real? Oh, well, reliable people, okay, reliable people, including police, government officials, businessmen and many others, whose integrity is beyond question, have witnessed the devil's activities. To this day. People traveling down the Garden State Highway Parkway or the Atlantic City Expressway reported sightings of something or tell stories of strange occurrences. Many continue to believe that the legendary being is still around, disturbing the region, and we'll continue to do so for generations to come. We'll also go over some toxic food ingredients that actually make you hungrier and hijack your brain. So relevant, Dr Shaw, a Harvard trained nutritionist, wrote this and said, watch out for these toxic food additives, mono sodium, glutamate, MSG added to many flavored foods, MSG antagonizes your pancreas into pouring out more insulin, a hormonal cascade that makes you feel hungrier. MSG has been linked to. Diabetes and obesity, and is even considered an

Berly:

excitotoxin, cytotoxin,

LA:

okay, which can cause brain cells to get over excited and then fire uncontrollably, potentially leading to cell death. Oh, nice. Yeah,

Berly:

I've seen like, no MSG, no MSG. And I've always been like, what's the big deal with MSG? But never been curious enough to actually Google it that that is that is a bad thing. Yeah, not good. Not good

LA:

for you. Number two is refined flour. The word refined in flour refers to the modification process in which the bran and germ are removed, allowing products to stay on the shelves longer, but it also removes the naturally occurring vitamins, minerals and dietary fiber. Refined flour, mainly white flour, jacks up your blood sugar levels, fast, spiking your insulin levels, and then making them crash. This reaction makes you hungry very quickly, which explains why you may feel like eating again soon after having a bagel or a slice of toast. Number three is refined sugar. White sugar works on the body in a very similar way to the refined flour. It sends your body sugar sky high, and then makes it crash a short time later, intensifying your craving for sugar once you start eating it, it can be difficult to stop. Sugar can make you briefly feel high like a drug, and creates a spark of energy in your body because of the dopamine release. It brings a particular vile form of refined sugar is high fructose corn syrup laced in sodas commercial juices and other beverages, as well as packaged foods, it messes up your normal metabolism. Studies have found that this additive slows down the release of leptin, or the I'm full hormone. Oh, never heard of leptin.

Berly:

Me neither. And that's important, though, right?

LA:

And finally, number four is gluten, back to the white bread. Another reason it makes you hungry is it's gluten content. Gluten is a protein in wheat that is often present in processed foods. It can be highly inflammatory in certain groups of people because of its sugar like properties when refined, and it is also a gut irritant, a good rule of thumb is to avoid gluten containing products for a month see how you feel and note whether you are in better control of your cravings because of the decreased nutritional value in most grains. They should only be a small part of our diets. Anyway,

Berly:

sounds like Ranger Rick was getting too much processed foods, right? Well, quote to close it out, is from Bobby whenever he was scolding Dean about his attitude and that he needed to get on his reason for continuing to hunt, because he's not just a person, Bobby said, if you die before me, I'll kill you. Cheers, cheers. Thank you for listening to denim wrapped

LA:

nightmares. Follow us on Twitter or Instagram, leave a review and let us know how we can get involved in the fandom.

Berly:

This was fun, jerk. It always is,

LA:

bitch. You.

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