Denim-wrapped Nightmares, a Supernatural podcast
Join SPN fandom newcomers, Berly and LA, as they explore the TV series, Supernatural, episode by episode. Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
As a way to keep in touch during the 2020 pandemic, Berly and LA started podcasting with their debut, anything-goes talk show, The Tipsy Exchange. During those discussions, Berly and LA realized that they most enjoy talking humorously about TV, horror, suspense, and hot guys. Supernatural seemed a natural fit. It's a match made in heaven... or hell... you decide!
Now, let's get tipsy! CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞
Denim-wrapped Nightmares, a Supernatural podcast
The Girl Next Door
Berly and LA recap the season seven Supernatural episode, The Girl Next Door. Over drinks, they'll discuss lore, gore, and what they adore about the Winchesters and their adventures. Now, let's get tipsy! CW/TW for violent and lewd commentary; listeners beware! 🔞
Summary: In "The Girl Next Door," Dean and Sam are in Sioux Falls General, with Dean recovering from a leg break and Sam from head trauma. They escape to a cabin, where they heal for three weeks. Sam investigates a series of murders linked to a Kitsune, a shape-shifting creature that consumes pituitary glands. He befriends Amy, a Kitsune who kills to feed her sick child. Dean, distrustful, kills Amy. Meanwhile, Leviathans track them, and Sam's hallucinations persist. The episode explores themes of trust, family, and the blurred lines between good and evil, with a focus on the Kitsune's mythology and its dual nature as a trickster and protector.
Resources:
- https://supernatural.fandom.com/wiki/The_Girl_Next_Door
- https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
- https://sakura.co/blog/what-is-a-kitsune-japans-shapeshifter
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Ella, welcome to denim wrapped nightmares, Tipsy exchange Podcast where we explore the supernatural series, episode by episode,
LA:over drinks, we'll discuss the lore the gore and what we adore about the Winchesters and their adventures.
Berly:I'm Burleigh, and I'm a new fan of the series. I'm
LA:LA, and I'm here along for the ride. Now let's get tipsy. Hello, LA, hey Burley on the last episode, it was titled, hello, cruel world.
Berly:Not not. Watch out for that. Shiznickel over there. No, it was not should have
LA:been titled. Castiel continued to struggle with the burdens that came with his new fangled power. The broken wall in Sam's head caused him to have hallucinations, and he had difficulty discerning what was real and what was not. And Bobby worried that Dean was beginning to stumble under the weight of fighting Castiel and keeping an eye on Sam. Too much for
Berly:him, too much going on. Yeah, today's episode, I felt like, was the longest episode I've ever seen in my life. It was called the girl next door. It's the third episode of season seven, and originally aired on October 7, 2011 the episode picks up almost right where we left off last week, pretty damn close to it. They aren't in the ambulance. They're actually in the hospital. Dean is conscious enough to confirm they are, in fact, in Sioux Falls general, and they're in the ER, and he's trying to do what he can to get out of there, but he's getting pumped with painkillers, and his leg break is getting reset, and he's not conscious very long. He's conscious long enough to confirm that Sam is also there and that he had head trauma, so he's getting treated elsewhere in the hospital, but that was pretty much it. And then he goes Night, night. I
LA:liked when he's like, he's sitting there asking what's going on, and they're all talking around him, and you just hear this countdown. And I was like, Oh shit. Oh, something's gonna crack here in a second. And if Sure
Berly:enough, that was cool. That was, that was good. It was. I liked the beginning. I liked how this episode started. It started with chaotic, yeah, chaos and the guys being scared for the first time in a while, you know, like they didn't want to they were scared to be there, oh yeah, and worried about, Where's Bobby and all this other kind of stuff. So I did like how it started, but yeah, so he conks out. He passes out. His leg, gets set. He comes to again, confirms yet again, by looking at a sign that he is still in Sioux Falls general, and he says, Oh, fuck. Tries to get out of bed, falls straight onto the ground. I'm not sure how he even got as far as he did that cast was all the way up his thigh, yeah, busts his ass, yeah. And then Bobby pops his head in. He's in his full suit, with
LA:his hair cleaned up, looking
Berly:like Yes. Dean is very happy to see him and see that he's okay. Bobby gets him situated, finds out, asks him Where's Sam. He tells him where he'll be able to find Sam. He gets him situated, and they make a plan, make an escape plan, like, we got to get the fuck out of here. They know who we are. Meet me in the ambulance area. Okay, here's some crutches. And then he gave them that little pat on his face and that reassuring smile. Oh, I loved it. You got this kid so once Bobby knows like okay, Dean is conscious enough. He's on morphine, but I have faith in the kid, he's got crutches, he'll be okay. Here's your clothes. I'll meet you elsewhere. Bobby takes off to go find Sam, who is still unconscious and getting wheeled down the hall, thankfully, by a not Leviathan doctor, because that doctor did not recognize Bobby for shit. Bobby just flashes his badge. I don't know what he was saying. Was he insinuating that he was a criminal or something, or that he didn't have health insurance anymore. I don't remember. He said something about, like, he ain't got coverage for transferring him something. I'm like, why would the FBI be coming and being like, this kid doesn't have insurance? I'm taking him away, I don't know, but whatever it was, was convincing enough for that doctor to just hand the patient over, like, no questions asked. I
LA:feel like, half the time when they're playing a part of somebody else, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't always, all the time make sense, right? Well, sometimes,
Berly:you know, I'll play, I'll play devil's advocate here.
LA:Sometimes I'm just saying, yeah, a lot of times it's like, wait, what?
Berly:But what that, where I was going with that, is that they actually did one of those psychology studies, right? What do they call it? Think they call it lab coat response, or white coat response. I can't remember what it was, but they've actually done studies where they've had people in a room and sent somebody in who just because they had on a white coat with a badge that made them seem like they were something official. They would go in and tell people to do stuff, and it would be weird shit, and people would do it because they perceived that person to have some sort of authority. I could see that. So it's not completely out of the realm of possibility, even when something seems off. That a person would just do what they're saying. Oh, well, there's
LA:those stories that terrify me, of when somebody's impersonating a cop and kidnap somebody, or something like that. I'm like, I would totally, because it's like, you're just like, ingrained from when we were young, at least, to trust cops, of course,
Berly:or authority figures in general, right, right? So I'm just saying that kind of scares me, yeah, but I'm just saying in this particular instance, this was a hospital professional who just with no questions, handed over an unconscious man to this strength like nothing, no paperwork, nothing, just Okay, Sir, take him off. My hands. All yours.
Unknown:I'm going to lunch.
Berly:Speaking of lunch. Dr, Gaines. Dr, sexy. Were you? You were you weren't happy to see him this episode, I didn't hear any commentary. Oh,
LA:bad guy. Now
Berly:you don't like him now, boo,
LA:we're looking good, though, good. He
Berly:still looks good. Yeah. Word gets to him and the head nurse that the Winchesters are in the hospital,
LA:I like that. He's scrubbing in, and his phone rings, and the nurse just grabs it from his little pocket and holds it up to his ear. What a team.
Berly:I don't know if he was scrubbing in or if he was scrubbing out, if that's a thing, because he straight up was like, so do you have dessert lined up next? I was like, Jesus, how many people do you need to eat? I forgot about that. Are you just picking your favorite parts? Because we know you don't eat dick, so we know that's not on the menu. It's like, I'm gonna have this person's liver. I'm gonna have maybe not all of them don't eat dick. Just the ones that were at the swim team. They don't, they don't. They're the ones who are like, not for me. Yeah, not everyone likes dick. And that's okay. That's true. You know. You know. All right, teach their own
LA:we'll see as
Berly:not that I'm advocating eating other parts of people, not not in the way the leviathans
LA:like you're offended
Berly:that they didn't eat the dick. I'm just still very curious as to why. Because I know you were saying that you think there must have been other body parts strewn about, but we didn't see any other body parts strewn about. They didn't mention any other body parts strewn about. And so I'm picturing, it's just the dicks that were in that swim team,
LA:and like they were, they had, like, piled them all together. Remember? Because he's like, they're all right, there one spot,
Berly:yeah, it's right around the corner. All this shizz, nickel,
LA:wasteful. Waste, not want, not
Berly:all right, back to this episode. This
LA:too much dicking around.
Berly:Anyways, so Dr Gaines and the nurse are like, oh fuck the Winchesters are here. Oh my gosh. We gotta go find them. We gotta go eat them. So they take off and they so we gotta chase on our hands, Bobby is going real fast, getting Sam through the ambulance, out in the bay, into an ambulance, hot wires it, and is sitting there being like, All right, come on, Dean. Come on. And we see Dean just kind of making his way, making his way downtown. His crutches just kind of going and he was handling himself very well, for someone who was on a lot of morphine, yeah,
LA:he was having a little bit of a hard time, but he made it.
Berly:He suffered up real quick, which, you know, in that instance of somebody might be coming to try and eat me, I think that, yeah, I would, I would get it together as quickly as I
LA:could, as well, not all of you. Okay.
Berly:Bobby is watching through his little side view mirror, just watching the door, waiting and it flies open, but oh shit, it's not Dean, it's Dr Gaines and head nurse ratchet. I don't know why it's not nurse ratchet, I know, but that just came out automatically. Works. They spot Bobby, and they are like, oh yeah. They start making their way. And just when I think Bobby is going to be in the position of having to leave Dean or not, because, you know, Sam's unconscious in the back, Bobby can only do so much. Dean jumps into the passenger side, but he forgets his crutches, I was afraid that they
LA:were going to get to the door, open the door, and Sam was going to end up rolling out, or one of them was going to be able to jump in like because they were pretty close. Yeah,
Berly:they got close, they got close, but they made it out. They got away. They escaped. Then we have this beautiful little cabin. It's gorgeous, and we find out it's one of Rufus places they don't think he's been there for a while. And it's three weeks later, Dean is on the couch and has been watching a bunch of telenovelas. Him and Bobby. Yeah, him and Bobby are into it, because whenever Bobby comes in the door, Dean is just like, oh my god, Bobby Ricardo, he's dying, and Bobby's like, oh, so they've both. They've been just holed up.
LA:I wish I'd, I wish I'd written down what he said in Spanish. I forget what it was, but it was funny.
Berly:I thought he said something more Tay, right? Did he? I thought he said he died. Bobby Jensen was saying of Ricardo, that he morte, that he was saying he, Oh, I
LA:thought Bobby said something back though, oh, I
Berly:don't know anyway that I missed that Sam is reading, you know, he's just chill in the background. He doesn't seem as invested. In the till enough Ella, but it becomes clear they've just been holed up here for three weeks healing up. Dean does mention something about how in five more days, he's good to go. And I was just like, isn't that four weeks for a leg break? Seems awfully quick. But then I remember he's Dean fucking Winchester. Yeah, Bobby's been out and about. He's brought baby back with him, as well as a little bit of Intel. Not enough, he decides he needs to go out and get more, but he's brought back a little bit. Other hunters have been running into these leviathans all over the place too, and they're kind of figuring out that's, that's what this is, that it's this Leviathan thing that got into chaos and it's gone out and infected people, and it's kind of like a shape shifter, but they eat people way more than shape shifters do, and the hunters are saying they haven't been able to figure out a way to kill these fuckers. Like nothing works. They just leak black glue. Dean sends Sam to the store. Take baby here, take the keys. Go get some food. Don't forget the pie
LA:right. When they were having that conversation with about about the Leviathan, though, Sam, like, checked out again, and was like, heard some voices forgot
Berly:about that. Yeah, Sam does totally check out. And we hear lucifer's voice just kind of being like, Sam. Sam, he's just staring off, and he starts messing with the injury on his hand again to ground himself and bring him back into reality. And so they kind of check in with him, and he says, Yes, like, I'm still having hallucinations, but I know what's real and I know what's not. I'm okay. Then they send him out to the store, and then they talk about him behind his back. Of
LA:course, they're worried. Well, Dean's worried. Bobby's
Berly:trying to be optimistic and say, you know he's he's got it under control. He's grounded. Give him a shot. He might surprise you. Dean, on the other hand, is saying no, like, I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop because it's Sam, which that just kind of was, like, it's either been visions or demon blood drinking or the no soul having, like it has seemed to be one thing after the other. Yes, oh, so. But it hurts my heart because sammy's trying so hard. You can tell that may be sad. After Bobby and Dean have this little Tete, Bobby tells Dean like you need to get over it. We need to focus on these fucking Leviathan things. We need more intel. That's where we need to focus our stuff. And so Bobby leaves again to try and go get his books, gather up His books, His copies, his copies, his copies of his books, because he's a paranoid bastard. We learned that in a different episode. So he's got copies of all those books that got burned down, stashed. He's going to collect that stuff. We cut to Sam in the store, and he's gathered up some food, and he is paying with a credit card, and looks over and notices a newspaper, and it zooms in on the headline, which is talking something about like an ice pick killer. Made me think of Dexter.
LA:Oh yeah,
Berly:which I can't remember, honestly, if that was the ice pick killer, or if it was something else, wasn't an ice pick I thought so. Ice truck.
LA:I think that might be it. But
Berly:now I'm trying to think, why would they call him an ice truck killer? Oh, well, ice something killer. Something to do with ice and spoiler. It was Dexter's brother. Oh. Anyway, Sam seems very interested in this newspaper and adds it to his transaction, which is totally ratting on them. They have leviathans stashed everywhere. They're at the hospital. They are now working at the credit card companies, and they have set up Google alerts for all of the Winchester aliases, so this pings them and tells them exactly where they are. So I'm like, y'all haven't used a single credit card in over three weeks. Yeah, maybe Rufus place was totally stashed, like they didn't need anything for three weeks. We'll assume that's the case, sure, but back to the newspaper headline. We get our first flashback to 1998 it shows baby Sammy on the phone talking to Dean about how he's located at Kitsune, and he's talking about what it does and how it's really rare, and that he's headed to the library to go research more about this monster the end. So we're back to the present. That's it. That's that's all we get in this flashback. And we see Sam leaving a note for Dean, who's asleep on the couch, and in the background, it's a commercial playing for, I think it was called, I think it said, My bloodiest Valentine.
LA:No, I didn't notice that. Well, I
Berly:saw the closed captioning. Oh, I think that Jensen starred in a movie called that. Oh, yeah, My
LA:Bloody Valentine. Was
Berly:that what it was? I think so. I thought that was funny. It made me wonder if the movie was coming out right around this time or something. And it was a little little plug, yeah, to be like, go see this. Don't forget, go see it. After Sam leaves Dean, we cut to this shady under a bridge. I don't know where we were really, but
LA:I know I was like,
Berly:I put sewers question mark. No, I
LA:know that's not right. I couldn't think of what just to describe. It definitely not somewhere
Berly:i. Want to be after sundown? Yeah, it didn't look like a nice little area. And there is a little drug dealer who is increasing his prices and telling this woman that it's gone up. And maybe we can make a trade like creep, just creep. And then we hear cop sirens going off, so she turns around and runs the other way. And he turns around to run too, but then he's snatched by something. It's really fast, like snatches him up and grabs him. Then it shows him laid on his back, eyes open and like blood seeping out from behind his head. So quick, death, very quick. We cut back to the cabin, Rufus cabin, and Dean is waking up. And I happened to notice over his shoulder there is a full on fire going in the fireplace. I mean, we're not talking about like just embers going out for that. We're talking full fire. And it was dark whenever Sam left, wasn't it? Yeah, and it was light whenever Dean wakes up. So I was like, that was so unsafe that you just left a completely unmanned fire burning overnight. Number one, number two, how is that fire still so big? Was it a gas fireplace? Maybe? Oh, no. It was just very concerned that is not safe. That's not fire safety. Dean should have been very upset about that, but he wasn't. He was just too freaked out about where is Sam?
LA:Like Sam, Sam's notes, like, be back in a few days. No explanation. Oh, okay,
Berly:took your car, by the way. Yeah, both cars. Thank you. Later, Dean calls Bobby, and it's just like, other shoe or something like that. I was like, Oh my God. And Bobby tells him, just give him a couple of days. My God, he left you a note. Calm down, still being that optimist, Bobby having faith in his boys, both his boys. But of course, Dean says, fuck that jazz, and gets a circular saw. Oh, my God, cuts off his
LA:own cat like as soon as I saw the saw, I just thought, typical, typical. He's just gonna do it himself, not healed yet properly, but he's still gonna do it and go find Sam.
Berly:We see Sam, speaking of Sam, I just snorted a little bit. I think we see Sam, and he is posing as an FBI agent, speaking with a cop about said creepy, gross drug dealer and his death, and the COP is telling him it was not a loss at all. What did he call him? It was which he said. He said this was not like a loss, like he was a terrible person, yeah, I think that's what he said. Hang on.
LA:I don't think that's what a
Berly:mench is. He was no Minch. Okay, yeah, Minch is a person of integrity and honor, okay? So yeah, he said he was no Minch. This was not a big loss, but they're looking at the body, looking at the brain. And Sam is like, Were there particular parts of the brain missing? I was like, I don't fucking know. Weirdo. Why are you asking me this? And Sam's like, oh, like, I worked a case that had similar stuff a while back, and the cop says, So do you think it was connected, and Sam's just like,
LA:oh, I don't know. We'll see. Oh, maybe he
Berly:also ignores a call from Dean at this time, he's busy. He is working, working a case
LA:I liked the alias he had, oh,
Berly:Lars, Lars Ulrich, yeah, yeah, it was funny. And there were multiple missed calls too. Oh, yeah. Well, I feel like I said, like, five missed calls from or something. Isn't
LA:that what Bobby had said? He said, You know, let's let him go be do his thing, and we'll just keep calling till he
Berly:answers or comes back. Oh, okay, so that was the plan to blow him up. Yeah, his phone, Dean is in a grocery store tracking Sam's footsteps. He's hit up the gas and sip, and is talking with the clerk, confirming that Sam bought a newspaper. And so he's looking at the newspapers from yesterday, and he sees that headline, and that seems to strike a chord. Like, obviously he hasn't put things together just yet. But he says something like, oh, man, all right. So he calls Bobby, and Bobby is like, okay, great, so he's working a case like we know what he's doing. Chill out. Dean back at the morgue, Sam is talking with the coroner and confirms that Sam was right. Part of the victim's brain was removed, and yeah, their pituitaries are fucking gone. Look, and we have yet another very short flashback where we see young Sam tracking similar murders at a library, and he tells him like, oh yes, like, it's it's happening along this route, at these little stops, and he's got these three little exits. And then he was just like, I've been at this all for eight years. I'm so tired. Wait a minute. Hang on. Let me call you back. And he hangs up the phone and literally just traces the road along which these 3x were. I thought it was very dramatic. Maybe he just wanted to get off the phone, but I was just like, you literally. Drew line along the route that you just said the murders were, I don't know a lot of these flashbacks bothered me because they didn't add to the story. They didn't add to me caring about Sam and Amy's relationship like I would have rather seen flashbacks of them getting to know each other, so that there was a bond that was formed there. More. So you know, these, these flashbacks of Sam hunting, tracking the thing. I was unimpressed, but we're back at the future, or not the future, the present, and Sam is yet again, tracking the pattern, doing all the same things that he was doing. So I get that they were drawing parallels, but I'm just saying I didn't personally feel like those flashbacks were doing anything to add to the story. Am I wrong? I mean, it, I
LA:think if it had been done in a different way, you probably would have liked, maybe it would have been better, tolerated it a little better, but I can see why the choppiness of it and all that bothered you. But yeah, and it was, yeah, just like little flashbacks. I mean, yeah, I get, I get where you're coming from. Anyway,
Berly:Sam drives to a park on the outskirts of town. Then we do another flashback back to young Sam buying a coffee outside of the library, and he sees a girl going to the library, and is like, oh, yeah, okay, goes back inside, and kind of was paying attention to her, looking at what she's looking at, and she kind of notices him as well. And then we cut back to the park. And it just shows Sam see someone pull up and go into the park. And then we cut back again, like it was just the choppiness of it. I was just like, give me a second to care and even process what's happening here. Back in the past, young Sam is going to get a book, and he sees her again, and she's looking at him, and he's looking at her, and she's looking at him, and he's looking at her. And so then he walks away and calls Dean and tells him very loudly that the way to kill a Kitsune is to stab it in the heart. After he's finished his little report, he asks his brother, okay, I have I have one more question, Dean, real quick before I let you go, how do I talk to girls? No, he shoots his shot. She immediately was like, No, I
LA:like that. She explained herself, because at first I was like, damn. She's like, Nope, no, go away, walk away. Yeah, I'm like, damn.
Berly:She's like, sorry, I'm not allowed to talk to boys. So, yeah, I mean, that was nice. I mean, how old were they supposed to be here? So 1998 so that means that Sam was, like, 16, right? Yeah,
LA:that's what I was gonna think. In mid teens,
Berly:it's a little old to be told not to talk to boys, but I guess we figure out why later that she's not allowed to have friends. Really, there's a couple of boys who are hanging out outside the library. The young girl who Sam's been talking to leaves the library, and the two boys are very like, giggly, staring at her. And then they're like, Yeah, let's go. Let's go. So they chase after her. Sam doesn't like this, so he decides to follow as well. He sees the two boys harassing her about talking to them and hanging out with them and like, laying hands on her. And she's like, Why the fuck are you touching me? Get the fuck away from me. And Sam comes over and is just like, Yeah, back off. And they, of course, try to like this guy, yeah, this little guy, you know, try to come and beat him up, but he kicks both of their asses, and they take off running. Then he just looks at her and goes, I'm Sam. And she's like, I'm Amy hot in her accent. We cut again, back to the present, and Sam is like stalking the woman through the park, through the forest as she's making her way to the other side of the park, where there is a drunk dude trying to get in his car in order to drive, and she is hiding behind a tree, watching him, waiting for her moment. When Sam confronts her, we saw the necklace that the little girl at the library had on earlier. They zoomed in on that. When he pulls the woman and turns her around a face, and we see immediately she's got that same necklace on. And Sam is just like, Hi Amy. And she says, Hi, Sam. This is really awkward. My bad. Sam already has a knife pulled, and it's right there at her chest, at her heart, ready to go. And she explains that she's not just murdering just because, like I, you have to trust me.
LA:She has to do I have have to, yes,
Berly:I'm normal. I have a life. I have a mortgage. Chill out. Don't, don't kill me. We cut back again to the past, Amy has brought Sam to her home to help him with his injuries, which I didn't see any,
LA:yeah. I mean,
Berly:I think there was, I think there was a tiny red mark. Maybe he was gonna get a shiner. He did get punched. What? When she was like, are you ready to play doctor?
LA:Yeah, I was like, where's
Berly:this going? Where is this going? I was about to get real uncomfortable, but then she just pulled out like a gauze, and was like dabbing at a space where there were no cuts, yeah, no open wounds. She was shooting her shot. She was flirting, and let me take care of you. They both kind of talk about their parents having a temper and having to move around a lot, and they have a very brief. Bonding moment. I just wish they had done more of that, yeah, where we got to see more of a relationship form between Sam and Amy. Yeah. I liked her little thing where she was saying that she's a freak and Sam's a freak, but the coolest people are freaks. That was a cute little speech. Yeah. It really touched Sam, obviously, because, speaking of shooting a shot, he leaned in and kissed her, got a little smooch back in the present, Sam is confronting adult. Sam is confronting adult Amy about the fact that she's killed three people in the past week, but Amy is still just insisting I had to. And she
LA:keeps saying I can't, like, I can't tell you why, but I just had to. You have to trust me, yeah, Sam
Berly:knows where this is going. I guess he knew he wasn't going to kill her. He wanted more information. I'm not really sure what the thought process was here, but they show distinctly Sam reaching his hand into her jacket pocket to pickpocket her. He waits for her to make a move and beat him up basically. So he pickpockets her, and she smashes his head up against a tree and knocks him out. And I kind of want to be like Amy he just got out of the hospital head trauma. Like, no, she didn't know. I know, but still,
LA:it looks like she like, muffed him. Pork, push your hand in their face. Muffed Is that not what that is? I've
Berly:never heard of that in my life, but sure maybe I didn't know there was a word for putting your hand on someone and shoving their head into something, though. Yeah. I mean, it seems like maybe there should be a word for that. Yeah, I don't know. We can go with that. So Amy muffed, Sam, but okay, but yeah, I immediately was just like, Oh, my God, poor Sam the head trauma. This boy has had his visions and stuff are gonna come back. He needs, uh, he
LA:needs some rest. Yeah,
Berly:he needs, he needs a retire. Once Sam is unconscious, we see that he did good. He did get a fistful of stuff out of Amy's pockets, and fortunately, it was enough stuff for him to track her down and find out who she is and where she lives. Dean, in the meantime, has followed in Sam's footsteps yet again, he's talking with the coroner and getting the same information from the coroner that Sam got talking about the pituitary glands and all of that kind of stuff. So bells are starting to ring with Dean. He's starting to remember some stuff. He calls Bobby and tells him, Okay, so Sam is tracking a Kitsune. And Bobby, at first is like, and then he kind of reminds them they're very rare. They look like people. They eat pituitary glands, yada yada. And Bobby's like, Oh yeah, okay, okay, okay. Bobby asks Dean, you know, what are you gonna do whenever you catch up with Sam, like, we know he's working a case. What are you what are you gonna do? And he's like, I've got some ideas. We cut to Amy showing up at her home, and she is turning down picture frames for some reason. Yeah, I didn't know what was happening there, why she rushed in. Was like, Oh, let me hide
LA:these I thought maybe she was gonna pack up or something, but, oh, she
Berly:must have seen Sam. Now that I'm thinking about it, she must have either seen Him or know knew that he was gonna find her, and so she didn't want him to know about her kid. Yeah, so that's what she was doing. So she's trying to quickly hide evidence in her home that she has a child, but Sam's there, so he's already confronting her, and it's like, Fuck, man, you were serious about that mortgage. This place is nice. Amy Pond, I love how he was like, this cute little name a pond. I like a fake little name Amy, good job. He is again, confronting her about like, you're fucking killing people, like I can't let you go. You're murdering people. You're gonna keep murdering people. And she's like, hold up. All right. I know I was really insistent earlier that I couldn't tell you, and he just wanted you to trust me, but now I'm gonna tell you everything. Okay, I got a job as a mortician. I have been living off of the pituitary glands of dead people. I haven't killed anybody. It was fine, but then I had a kid.
LA:The better job would have been to be the person that takes the organs when they're an organ donor, but then
Berly:that person's giving brains that aren't full to other people? Well, no, not necessarily. If you're the person who takes the brain for an organ donor and you're plucking out the pituitary gland to go give the brain to another person, and there's not a pituitary gland in that brain.
LA:Oh, right, yeah, she's giving it to her son. You're saying, oh, sorry for the person that needed it, yeah. Brain replacements, any just yet?
Berly:Do they not? I thought mentorship? Well, yeah, you're right, though, I'm kidding, but that's how they could have gotten fresh meat,
LA:right? That's what I'm saying. Because she was saying, like, he got sick. And do they not do brain donors? Well, I mean, they test on them and use them in, you know, labs and all that. But, hmm, I didn't know that. It just hit me. I was like, Oh, she should have been person taking the organs and stolen those brains.
Berly:Nope. Amy decided to find out who are some shitty people, dead brains. Go get their brains instead. Well, she did the dead brains, dead brains first, right? But then her kid got sick and he wasn't. Better. The doctors didn't know what to do, because, of course, the doctors think they're treating humans, but no, they're Kitsune is and Amy just was like, Well, shit. I guess he needs fresh meat. He needs fresh meat to get better. And so that's why she started killing people. But it does seem like, speaking of Dexter, it does seem like she was going after not nice people, right? Yeah, so at least she was doing her
LA:research, right? I mean, do we really have to mind? I mean, it's basically
Berly:doing what you and Dean do. Sam, Oh, I
LA:thought you were saying me. I was like, What do I do? No, I'm
Berly:talking to Sam. Yeah, no, you're right. Because right, picturing myself in in my head, I was in Amy's living room with Sam and Amy. I was just like, defending Amy. Like, come on, Sam, she does what you and Dean do. I mean, I don't know that guy who was about to be a drunk driver. I don't know that he was a POS, but I'm just assuming he was, because she seemed to specifically be going for him, right? Writing like the drug dealer, yeah, we know he was a POS, yeah. And then the the drunk driver, guy like, that was clearly a plan that she knew he was going to be there. So that just makes me think that she had done her research on him too, right? Just assuming, good for you. Amy, yeah, and she opens up her door and shows Sam, like, see kid proof. What did you want me to do? But she told him his fever broke after the last one, so we're good. So here's my question, why were you about to kill another dude? Then? Amy, exactly. I was thinking the same thing. Why were you about to kill another dude. Amy, if his beaver broke, you're gonna do one more for good measure. What's going on here? But anyway, she promises Sam, like, just kidding about that other guy, I'm done. You know who I am? You know who, what kind of person she emphasized that, what kind of person I am. And we get another flashback to the past After Sam and Amy, you know, decide to stop making out, Amy goes and gets him a Diet Coke or something from the fridge, and he drops it and spills it. Oh, and this is when they kind of lament about, like, my parents a shitty person. Oh, yeah, me too. My parents are really shitty person, and they're both saying that they don't want to grow up to be their parents. She
LA:hears her mom pull up, right? Yeah, not, yet. Okay,
Berly:we got to cut back to the present for another scene first, and then cut back. Yeah, exactly. Then back in the present, Sam is asking for an explanation and refusing to drop his knife, and that's when she actually revealed about her kid. So I jumped ahead of myself. I forgot that all important flashback scene of her getting the Diet Coke and then being like, we don't want to be your parents. Sorry, guys. I suck with the episodes that cut back and forth, like this one, and this one did it a lot. Yeah. I mean, it's not happening. Oh, but Amy does start reminding Sam, you know, I'm a good person. You know what kind of person mind, don't forget what I did for you. And it's like, what the fuck would you do for him? Well, then they do another flashback, and we find out that Amy's mom came home and was like, Ah, shit. Hunters found us. They were in a crappy Impala. And I was like, Oh, they don't want us to like her, because they're insulting baby.
LA:And Amy had shoved Sam into the closet away from her mom,
Berly:yeah, to hide her, to hide him. She was hiding Sam. And he's pulled out. He's he's in the closet just kind of listening and eavesdropping. The mom goes over, gets a brain out of the fridge and puts it on the counter, and it's talking to Amy about how we gotta go. We gotta go. And Amy just tells her mom, okay, you she sees the mom start heading for the closet, and so she like interrupts, and is like, okay, Mom, you go fill up the car and I will pack and then we'll get the fuck out of dodge. And the mom's just like, okay, that's my good girl, awesome. And she walks out the front door. Turns out mom just hung out on the patio. Mom didn't go anywhere. She said, this isn't right, yeah, her agree, her being agreeable, yeah. She does say that later, like, you throw a shit fit every time we have to leave town. So I knew something was up, but Amy thinks the mom is gone. Sam comes out of the closet, and it's just like, Oh my God, you're a monster. She's like, Oh my God, you're a hunter. So what are we supposed to kill each other? I don't want to hurt you. Do you want to hurt me? And Sam's like, No, I don't want to hurt you. Let's just let each other go. But then the mom comes in and is like, I knew it. I knew something was up, and she's going to hurt Sam. And Sam drops his knife. Oh, no, I think it was a different knife. I think Amy went and got a knife out of the kitchen. Yeah, it looked like a different knife, but Amy stabs her mom in the heart and kills her mom from behind, yeah, because her mom was about to kill Sam, like she I will say the claw effect was pretty cool. That was cool. That was done really it was subtle, but it was done really well. The mom's claws had come out. She was about to kill Sam, and Amy saved Sam's life, like, killed her mom in order to save Sam's life. And so Sam is like, do you have cash? What do you need? Because you gotta go like, my my dad and brother are on their way here. You gotta get out of here. We'll take care of the body. Don't worry about it. Get out. And so Sam lets Amy go, and I'm not sure if he let her go, like, to be like, Okay, now we're even or if he let her go, because he truly does believe she won't kill again. Who knows? No, he's going back to the hotel, back to his hotel, and he opens his door, and Dean has caught up to him. At this point. Dean punches him in the face, yet again. You know, he just got, just had trauma. God, Sam's poor brain. I. Goodness. And so Dean tells him that's what he gets for stealing baby. Real nice. Yeah. Sam explains everything to Dean and explains that he let Amy go. He was like, it's done. And Dean tries to say, No, like she's dropping people. She's killing people. She kills people. We kill her. It's that simple. And Sam is just like nothing in our life is simple. And this was reminiscent to me, of, I think it was called bloodlust, the episode where there were the vegan vampires, you know, Dean, I thought he had kind of circled around and had started to see Sam's point of view, that it's not always kind of dry, that there are gray areas, but I guess he's reverted back to feeling like, no, it's black and white again, yeah. Which you know happens. Progress isn't always like this straight path, right, like we regress and stuff, but it does kind of make me wonder, what has made Dean regress? Is it because of what happened with Cass
LA:maybe,
Berly:you know, here was this inhuman thing that I let into my life, I let myself care about and look what fucking happened? Yeah, it's curious. Could be why? Why has Dean suddenly regressed into thinking it's black and white and don't get close? Yeah, don't get close. Don't let them get away with nothing. There is no gray area. Why is there suddenly no gray area anymore? He had come a long way on believing there was, you know, I can't help but think that it's not somehow tied to Cass and like, I totally agree. You think, I think it's going to come around somehow, that this is tied to Cass, as to why Dean is regressing like this,
LA:well, and also, they were so close, you know, I mean him and Cass, I don't think he's really even dealt with that loss yet. Oh, true, yeah. So maybe just manifesting in this,
Berly:this too. Well, we know Dean's not going to actually deal with it, right? He's Mr. Repression all the way, you know, let
LA:it stew and simmer. Oh, and
Berly:the other thing was that Dean was like, oh, Amy's a freak. And Sam, Sam got his real, real butt hurt about that. And Dean's like, Oh, I didn't mean it. And Sam's like, Yes, you did, yes, you did. She's a freak. I'm a freak. Whatever. Sam's laid everything out for Dean and just asks him, I'm not asking you to trust her. Trust me, and Dean agrees. Sam is actually kind of surprised by that, but Dean's just like, I mean, I have to start trusting you at some point, right? Like, fuck it. I'm gonna start trusting you the next day, Dean calls Bobby and confirms that we're like, we're gonna we're gonna come meet you. They're at a motel, and he tells Sam, you go ahead and go get us checked in. I need to go refill my prescription, like shakes his medication bottle at Sam. So Sam goes into the motel, and Dean ends up going and tracking Amy down. And here's what I thought was really shitty. He tells Amy when she comes in next time you're on the run, change your plates. I was like, why is he giving her advice to change her plates whenever? He had clearly already decided when he got there what he was going to do? So he explains to Amy that he's Sam's brother. He's convinced she will kill again and stabs her in the heart. I mean, gets right up on her and just she looked so scared the whole time. It was rough. I mean, at least it was quick, but still, as he's pulling out the murder weapon, that's when I looked at you, and I was like, they really are just a couple of serial killers just traveling around the country. I mean, they really are. Yeah, we're talking about Dexter at the beginning. It's kind of, you know, as he's pulling out the murder weapon, he turns around and sees her. Kid is standing in the door by watching him. And it just so the kid is just completely in shock. And Dean asks him, you ever kill anybody? Yeah? Like, what? The kid says, No. And then dean is like, Do you got somewhere you can go? And the kid shakes his head yes. Oh no. He asked him if he had somewhere he can go first. And the kid shook his head yes. And then he said, Did you ever kill anybody? And the kid was like, the only person I'll ever kill will be you. And we have this little Kill Bill moment, right? And Dean tells him, you know, come find me in a couple of years. We'll talk, or in a few years, and we'll talk. He just leaves that kid there with his with his mother's corpse. Lovely. It was so sad. And then we cut back to the grocery store where Mr. Credit card man has tracked their purchase and has interrogated the poor clerk and confirms. And he's calling whoever these bosses are. He's called, oh, he called Edgar the mechanic. He calls Edgar the mechanic and tells him confirmation we got Sam and Dean Winchester. They've both been in this store. Leviathans are onto them. Yeah, I think you said he's only a couple days behind him. Yeah, expect him to catch up real soon. This was written by Andrew dobb and Daniel Laughlin, and it was directed by Mr. Jensen Ackles. Oh, Gore. There wasn't very much Gore at all. The only thing that I can think of that I would say was particularly gory is the drug dealer, guy like we Yeah, whenever he died, we saw the blood, and then when they were in the coroner's office, they showed the back of his head where the brain had come in to play. That's about it. I mean, maybe the brain's in jars, but I wouldn't say that was even particularly all that gory. That didn't bother me all that much. What bothered me more was the lack of anything else. That fridge. Like, there's just the one Diet Coke and these three bars, jars of brains, right? Like, is that all they eat is pituitary glands. Adore, did you adore anything about this episode?
LA:I liked seeing young Sam again. It's always nice that actor, yeah, and the act, the actors
Berly:are always really good. I wish they had had some little Dean in there. Yeah, but yeah, it was nice to the actor. Was really, really nice. I agree with that. There were a couple of shots that Jensen did that I really liked, particularly one the two that stick out in my brain the most are There's one at the gas station when Bobby's on the phone, and it was from a lower angle up. It was just really cool angle of that rear of the car and just the way Jim Beaver was leaned up against the car. I really liked the visuals of those angles like that. That could be a poster, right, like that. Was a really cool shot. I thoroughly I, in fact, I hope that is they should make that a picture that Jim Beaver can sign, because it was, it was nice. It looked I loved it. His legs looked so long, like it was real cool. And then this isn't unique, but I just always like weird things like this, the shot in the coroner's office when the body was getting pulled out of the drawer. Oh yeah, the camera coming with it. I liked that too. I'm curious how, how do they do that like, because clearly, you're not actually in the thing. So I'm curious now how they how they do that. I think that you're right. I was thinking about what you said, if they had done the entire flashback once Dean had caught up to Sam, let it kind of be a little bit of a mystery until that point, and then done the entire flashback for Sam to tell Dean the whole story, I think I maybe would have, it would have been better for me, right?
LA:Or even just like that be the beginning part of the episode, something just, yeah, where it was,
Berly:because it was just they were so short that it made it feel very choppy to me. This is my personal opinion. I don't do great with episodes that flip back and forth like this, usually, anyways, but this one in particular, I struggled with,
LA:no, I agree. I get where you're coming from, for sure,
Berly:there were some really great elements to it, but that pacing Damn near killed me. I was just like, Oh my God. All right, onto our lore. Well,
LA:we're gonna be talking about the Kitsune. Kitsune. Kitsune when we think of Japanese yokai or spirits. We usually think of the creepy Japanese ghosts that that have become very popular abroad. However, the Japanese Kitsune, or Fox has been a staple of Japanese mythology for a very long time, continuing to make appearances in Japanese media, even now. They have a reputation as a trickster. But there's much more to it than that. You said it's not your trickster.
Berly:You're a weird little bitch.
LA:Oh, I'm sorry. Hey,
Berly:my Trickster is also a fox. Oh,
LA:well, kids, soon a translate to Fox. Actually, do
Berly:you remember the one in Lovecraft country?
LA:Ah, the chick with the tails? Oh, yeah, I want to, I want to rewatch that. I'm gonna go back and rewatch that was so good, huh? Okay, well, yeah, actually, in ancient Japan, foxes often lived rather closely to humans. This led to plenty of Japanese folk tales about the Kitsune, almost entirely positive. Oh, we don't usually get that right. That being said, the fox of Japanese folklore is only slightly different from a regular Fox. Their appearance is initially the same at birth, but as mythical katsune grows in power, its appearance appearance changes too. That was a tough sentence. I know Kitsune, according to Japanese mythology, have paranormal abilities that also affect how they look. As the fox gets older, they get both stronger and wiser. Also, as they become more powerful, they gain more tails, with nine being the highest number. In other words, if a person saw a mythical Fox, the more tales they had, the older, wiser and more powerful the Fox was. How many did she have in I don't remember, it's been years, she probably had nine. You think, yeah. Many stories even say that the foxes only grow those extra tails after 100 years of being alive, gaining a new one every year. So they don't make it to 1000 I guess not nine. Tailed fox is supposedly so powerful that they can see and hear anything happening anywhere that could get annoying. Wow. They also have an infinite amount of wisdom. Even better, if they live, oh, here we go. If they live 1000 years, they will turn white or gold in color and become tenco, a heavenly Fox who ascends to heaven like my Gabriel. I don't know. I can't mention him, although foxes are known as tricksters, with many stories showcasing mischievous and or malicious and. Tent. This was not their only place. In Japanese mythology, based on the type, Kitsune are also portrayed as faithful kind guardians. In Japanese folklore, the white or gold foxes are messengers of Inari and are considered a good omen. Wasn't,
Berly:wasn't, was wasn't Gabriel, the saint or Archangel or whatever of messengers and messages and stuff. See, he's Foxy.
LA:Their abilities, although infinite wisdom, a ticket to heaven and an amazing sight and hearing, are great. That is not the only thing they could do. According to many folk tales, akitsune learns how to shape shift into human form at the age of 50 or 100 years old. However, this task often requires preparation, like gathering reeds, a leaf and a skull to perform the transformation. The Chinese version introduced the idea of Kitsune transforming into beautiful women to seduce young men. However, in Japanese stories, these foxes were often known as devoted wives who only left after being discovered or remembering their lives as foxes. There were also stories of young, attractive women who walked alone at night being Kitsune. One possible reason is that the fox face was beautiful. A narrow face, close, set eyes, thin eyebrows and high cheekbones characterized the face. Fox the fox face so foxes were said to keep their features often when turning into a young woman. However, foxes weren't just limited to beautiful young women. They often transformed into young girls, boys and elderly men as common options. Why not elderly
Berly:women? Nope, just the men.
LA:Their possession. This ability was a bit more mischievous in how they used it. Trickster. Foxes could possess someone, usually only those who wronged them and caused them to act strangely. They may walk through town naked, put them in compromising positions, or say, and do some extraordinary thing in the town square that's fucked up.
Berly:Next time you do something stupid, just be like it was
LA:the Kitsune Yeah, yeah. They may even eat massive amounts of the kitsunes favorite foods, like cerebral Yeah, like Japanese tofu dishes, especially fried and red bean rice, they forgot the brains. The only way to remove the demon was at an Inari Shrine, usually with the help of the good foxes. However, after the fox spirit leaves, the person will never want to eat tofu or red bean rice again. Oh, although the Kitsune is a powerful being in Japanese mythology, the Trickster foxes also have a few weaknesses. First, they have trouble hiding their tails, so a careless Fox, or one drunk on Japanese sake may accidentally show it and expose their identity. Foxes are drinking, yeah, they're also afraid of and hate dogs. Well, we can't be friends. Often changing, are
Berly:you upset by that you were really hoping to make friends with
LA:a seem pretty cool, I don't know. No often changing back and running away from them. Also a very religious person, person may see the Kitsune is true nature just by looking at them. Most importantly, a Kitsune must always keep their hoshi no tama, or star ball with them. Hoshi no tama is a glowing ball that acts as a container for their souls. Oh, without it, they will lose their strength and pass away as a human. They may wear it as an amulet as a fox. They carry it in their mouth or tails. Oh, I
Berly:wish they made her necklace like a glowing ball, right? That
LA:would be better, yeah, or something.
Berly:Because honestly, like, what made them, they seemed to almost be the same thing as a Reaper to me or not a Reaper. What are they that?
LA:Oh, oh yeah.
Berly:These things, yeah,
LA:gotcha Wraith. Oh yeah, yeah,
Berly:the wraith. Like, why didn't they just make her a wraith?
LA:We've had too many.
Berly:We've had one, haven't we to one too many? Well, a quote to close it out. It's from Chet, who was the credit card Leviathan guy. Whenever he got to the gas and sip and was about to chow down on the poor clerk, he found a vat of cheese sauce and said, You know what I find, plain old people taste fine, but everything is better with cheese. Cheers, sure. That's why he's not wrong. Thank you for listening to denim wrapped
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